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Offline Tash

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incorrect time signature in pop music OMG
on: March 31, 2006, 02:03:03 AM
so i was having a chat with another pianist the other day about how we should try playing some pop music since we're going to be school music teachers, so i went home and had a little sightread of vanessa carlton's 1000 miles (no i do not own it it was in my friends' guitar case she lent me!) and got 3 notes into it and was like what- cos i know how it goes, and where i expected there to be an accent it didn't appear to be in the notation- the notes weren't grouped correctly for the pulse to be in the right place. so it really should be not in 4/4 but 8/8 so you can group it with 2 groups of 3 quavers and 1 group of 2 quavers, then it's all good. so honestly, if you're going to write pop music, the least you can do is put it in the right time signature, because it's giving a lot of misconceptions to all those who place the piece!

agh that's my rant for the day i'm so annoyed at it!
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Re: incorrect time signature in pop music OMG
Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006, 04:11:45 AM
so i was having a chat with another pianist the other day about how we should try playing some pop music since we're going to be school music teachers, so i went home and had a little sightread of vanessa carlton's 1000 miles (no i do not own it it was in my friends' guitar case she lent me!) and got 3 notes into it and was like what- cos i know how it goes, and where i expected there to be an accent it didn't appear to be in the notation- the notes weren't grouped correctly for the pulse to be in the right place. so it really should be not in 4/4 but 8/8 so you can group it with 2 groups of 3 quavers and 1 group of 2 quavers, then it's all good. so honestly, if you're going to write pop music, the least you can do is put it in the right time signature, because it's giving a lot of misconceptions to all those who place the piece!

agh that's my rant for the day i'm so annoyed at it!

I actually remember teaching this song to a student and I don't remember there being a problem with how her sheet music was printed compared to the recording. Seemed like the right way to notate it to me, but I could be wrong.

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Re: incorrect time signature in pop music OMG
Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 09:47:20 PM
well maybe i'm remembering it wrong, but i swear the accents went like (capitals representing where the beat should be)
b (anacrusis)| B b b A b a F     D c b|   in which case it should be grouped in in 2 groups of 3 quavers and 1 group of 2. because when i look at the notes i see the 2nd beat being on the lower B and it wacks my thinking up. and the whole thing'd look so much neater if it was in 8/8. in fact i'm going to go write it up in sibelius and i'll get back to this
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Re: incorrect time signature in pop music OMG
Reply #3 on: April 01, 2006, 02:15:40 AM
I've seen music that's clearly in 8/8 written in 4/4 before...I always assume it's out of ignorance. Some people are not aware of 8/8 or its groupings.
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