Advice please

[victor_ching]

Can somebody give me advice on how to perfectly play the following pieces:

Sonata Pathetique, Opus18
Sonata In C Sharp Minor, Opus 27, 'Moonlight'
Revolutionary Etude

Thanks

[alwaystheangel]

listen to some of the "Greats" play it.  Practice your arse off, get a piano teacher (mean ones are the most effective)

[m1469]

Can somebody give me advice on how to perfectly play the following pieces:

Sonata Pathetique, Opus18
Sonata In C Sharp Minor, Opus 27, 'Moonlight'
Revolutionary Etude

Thanks

Yes, I can !!!

First, define for yourself what your concept of "perfectly" playing them is, and then play them (and practice them) just like that.

[alwaystheangel]

yeah, sorry we can't help you anymore but with such a braod question it's essentially impossible!!!  It sounds rather impatient on your part.  I feel that Music is actually in the "imperfections"  A piece to perfection does not seem to me to actually be music anymore.  Music is one of the most essential bits of humanity.  Humans are not perfect so how can music be perfect.  A piece that is perfect technique-wise and tempo wise and dynamic-wise is eery.  It's like a computer playing it and that's just gross.  Play from your soul.  That's what truly matters.  I'm not saying that mistakes are acceptable, but ebbs and flows in the music, being slightly expresive and all the rest of that stuff what truly matters.  Darn.. now I'm all phylosophical(sp?) Hopefully that made some sense.

[Tash]

get a teacher

[victor_ching]

sorry! was in a hurry when I posted it.

What I mean is how to play it the way where the composer most wanted it to be interpretated. For example, how would beethoven wanted moonlight to sound when he composed it.

Thanks

[alwaystheangel]

Unfortunately I think that information went to the grave with them.  Something that you might be able to do if you have time is do a piano tree.  Find a piano techer that was taught by another piano teacher who was taught by another teacher etc.. who was taught by beethoven.  They do exist.  In a way, then, you've been taught by Beethoven or Mozart or whomever else.  That's the closest we'll ever get, I'm afraid short of a time machine.

[Tash]

there are a lot of books on historical performance practice that can help understand these things- here's a few:

Brown, C.: Classical and Romantic Performance Practice 1750-1900 Oxford—New York: OUP, 1999

Eigeldinger, J-J.: Chopin: pianist and teacher as seen by his pupils Cambridge: CUP, 1986

Hudson, R.:  Stolen Time: the history of tempo rubato Oxford: Clarendon, 1994

Lawson, C. and Stowell, R.: The Historical Performance of Music: An Introduction. Cambridge: CUP, 1999

Neumann, F.: Performance Practices of the 17th and 18th Centuries New York: Schirmer, 1993

Newman, William, S.: Beethoven on Beethoven: playing his piano music his way New York: Norton, 1988

Rosenblum, S.: Performance Practices in Classic Piano Music: Their Principles and Applications Bloomington: Indiana UP, 1988

[fencingfellow]

I'll get the teacher tree started.

Haydn, teacher of Mozart, teacher of Beethoven.
Continue.


Sorry for the useless post, but I couldn't resist hehe.   

[alwaystheangel]

I'll get the teacher tree started.

Haydn, teacher of Mozart, teacher of Beethoven.
Continue.


Sorry for the useless post, but I couldn't resist hehe.