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Offline ben19rach

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Thirds in beethoven sonata no.7 in re major op.10
on: November 19, 2003, 12:34:57 PM
Hi! i am studying this sonata (op.10 no3 ) and i need some help! At the begening of this sonata after the descending octaves and the corona, the left hand has to play some descending and legato thirds! i need a good fingering! and any advice of the ways i can study this passage! thnx

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Re: Thirds in beethoven sonata no.7 in re major op
Reply #1 on: November 19, 2003, 05:56:11 PM
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Hi! i am studying this sonata (op.10 no3 ) and i need some help! At the begening of this sonata after the descending octaves and the corona, the left hand has to play some descending and legato thirds! i need a good fingering! and any advice of the ways i can study this passage! thnx


I've changed fingerings a few times in this section. The best I've come up with is (l.h.) 1-2,  1-3,  2-4, 1-3,  2-4,  1-3,  2-4,  3-5,  1-2,  1-3,  2-4,  3-5,  1-2,  1-3,  2-4, 3-5.

To help the legato, don't shift your hand from position to position. In other words at the beginning  where you change from 2-4 to 1-3, pass your thumb under the second finger so there is a legato connection between the F# (2nd finger)  and  E (thumb)., while passing your third (almost) over your fourth, so there is a likewise connection between the D (4th finger) and C# (third finger).  It takes a little practice until it feels comfortable.

None of this is easy, but it sounds great when played with a true finger legato, without too much pedal.

Let me know what you think, and good luck. This is one of my favorite Beethoven sonatas.
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Re: Thirds in beethoven sonata no.7 in re major op
Reply #2 on: November 19, 2003, 08:02:47 PM
Hi my friend thnx for your advice i like this finger but i think that when you are playing both hands is a litle dificult to use them. i keep on practise

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Re: Thirds in beethoven sonata no.7 in re major op
Reply #3 on: November 19, 2003, 08:31:06 PM
You're right it's not the easiest fingering to coordinate with the right hand.
There are a lot of "interesting" fingerings in the last movement too.
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Re: Thirds in beethoven sonata no.7 in re major op
Reply #4 on: November 19, 2003, 09:31:55 PM
Hey ben19rach
I studied this sonata last year.  Maybe i can help.

The fingering i use is
2-1, 3-1,2-4,5-3,2-1,3-1,2-4,5-3,2-1,3-1,2-4,5-3,2-1,3-1,2-4,5-3

To do legato b/w  5-3 and 2-1 you need to do an upward wrist motion to reach the 2-1 notes and a downward wrist motion to play the 2-1 notes
And try to stay in front of the black keys so they don't get in the way of the legato connection b:w 5-3 and 2-1 of C#-E, D-F#

of course you have to practice this part left hand alone alot before you can put hands the hands together

later
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