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Offline nanabush

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Pedalling in Ravel Sonatine?
on: April 06, 2006, 09:04:12 PM
Hi, in my version of the Sonatine, there are a select few measures for pedalling, but in some spots I have to play the pedal to maintain the low notes while my hands play something else.  I was wondering if the pedalling is extremely strict in this piece (namely the third movement, which I am finishing now), because there are very few pedal marks.  It sometimes sounds too choppy, even if I try to hold the keys as much as I can.  I think it sounds better in some areas with more pedal, but not sure how an examiner or judge would feel...
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Offline verywellmister

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Re: Pedalling in Ravel Sonatine?
Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 05:25:13 PM
Hey, I'm working on the 3rd mvt, too!
My teacher said said in measures 38-40 and 142-144, release pedal on the 1st and 4th beats.
Same with 41-43 and 145-147.
If your hands are your hands are too small for holding the 38-40 and 142-144, that's too bad.

Hope it helped (you will most likely ignore this post because everyone ignores everything I say).
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Re: Pedalling in Ravel Sonatine?
Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 08:43:51 PM
No, thanks alot for posting. I'll take ur points into consideration, see how it goes. thanks
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Offline lostinidlewonder

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Re: Pedalling in Ravel Sonatine?
Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 11:44:51 PM
The Anime constantly has this cycle of groups of 3 strong notes drawing through it the whole time.  I generally find you use the syncopated pedal so that you are releasing the pedal and replacing it every time you hit the first note of the group of three. The pedalling is very strict though, no pedalling can distort and confuse the balanced and even 3 note rhythm throughout the entire piece. Also listen to the melody, the notes that tend to be accented usually are played with the syncopated pedal too not played with a held or neglected pedal otherwise the accented note appears to be seperate from the others following off it.
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