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Offline bennom

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Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
on: April 09, 2006, 11:07:28 PM
I have a question for you out there!!!

I've heard that once upon a time, the "Ritual fire dance", from Manuel de Falla's opera El Amor Brujo, was a popular encore for pianists.

It's originally a piece for orchestra (and voices, that cry out: "Ahhh!"  ;D), but de Falla has made a piano arrangement of it.

The piece is really nice, a show-stopper-melody, but the piano writing is...somewhat clumsy.

So here's the question:

Is there a "virtuoso" arrangement by this lovely piece, perhaps made by someone like Godowsky, Horowitz, or Hamelin...?

Please let me know if you have any ideas.

(Otherwise, I would have to do an arrangement myself!  8) It's a threat.)

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #2 on: April 10, 2006, 01:02:18 AM
If you dare, here's one by Cziffra:
https://www.abrahamespinosa.com/partitures%20pdf/falla/Cziffra-Falla%20Danse%20du%20Feu.pdf

There is a god and you are his prophet!!!

Will I dare? Yes, I will dare! :P

In utmost gratitude,

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #3 on: April 10, 2006, 01:10:55 AM
Bennom, a/s/l?

Single or married?

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #4 on: April 10, 2006, 01:15:44 AM
Bennom, a/s/l?

Single or married?

Now, that's off topic.

What the *** is a/s/l?

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #5 on: April 10, 2006, 05:43:05 AM
The Cziffra transcription is just as simple as, if not more-so than the de Falla version.

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #6 on: April 10, 2006, 12:18:26 PM
The Cziffra transcription is just as simple as, if not more-so than the de Falla version.

Just played it thru and I agree completely. Cziffra has actually made a more user-friendly, easier-to-play version than de Falla himself. But it indeed sounds much better! It's closer to the splendour of the orchestral version. Cziffra makes a piano piece of it, instead of a "piano version". :)

But it would be interesting to see something more daring, Godowsky stylee, made of de falla's dance. Perhaps it's out there??

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #7 on: April 10, 2006, 06:56:12 PM
There's some transcription of the whole El Amor Brujo suite floating around out there that seems significantly more complex and daring.

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #8 on: April 10, 2006, 07:33:31 PM
Could someone post an mp3 or a link to a site that has it, so i can hear how it is played. Just curious.
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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 02:09:30 PM
If you can find Oscar Levant's version, it is really cool.

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 09:58:34 PM
The 'transcription of the whole suite' may be 'Suite on Themes from El Amor Brujo' by the Georgian pianist Prince George Chavchavadze (1904-1962), published by J.W. Chester 1950, 34 pp. Duration c.19-20 minutes. I have played this over and, as Maurice Hinson has written, it 'has  a thunderous conclusion'. It is interesting and unusual.

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
Hi

The link posted in the previous thread

(https://www.abrahamespinosa.com/partitures%20pdf/falla/Cziffra-Falla%20Danse%20du%20Feu.pdf)

doesn't seem to work anymore.  :'(

Does anyone know where I can find the Cziffra transcription of this piece?

Thank you in advance!  :)


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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #12 on: May 06, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
Hi

The link posted in the previous thread

(https://www.abrahamespinosa.com/partitures%20pdf/falla/Cziffra-Falla%20Danse%20du%20Feu.pdf)

doesn't seem to work anymore.  :'(

Does anyone know where I can find the Cziffra transcription of this piece?

Thank you in advance!  :)



i didn't know there was one by Cziffra, most interesting, i'll have to begin hunting that down. 

Russian pianist George Chavchavadze died in 1962 so this year marks the 50 mark for public domain on his arrangement.  This is his suite on themes of De Falla's El Amor Brujo, perhaps it might not be as 'flashy' as the Cziffra (i'm assuming) but it would take no less skill to do this extended solo work justice.

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #13 on: May 06, 2012, 07:20:13 PM
sorry forgot the back side/part ii , large file broken into parts

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #14 on: May 06, 2012, 07:26:55 PM
Rubenstein used to ALWAYS play it as an encore.  could never understand it's popularity, though.

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Re: Ritual fire dance for shallow virtuosi?
Reply #15 on: May 06, 2012, 07:45:25 PM
Rubenstein used to ALWAYS play it as an encore.  could never understand it's popularity, though.


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