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Offline Bob

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How did Liszt get his technique?
on: April 11, 2006, 10:58:22 PM
Is there anything realiable that tells us?



(Yes, he practiced.  I figured that out.  ::) )   But what did he practice?  How did he practice?  Did he write anything -- books, teaching ideas, anything at all?
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Offline emmdoubleew

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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #1 on: April 11, 2006, 11:20:07 PM
Is there anything realiable that tells us?



(Yes, he practiced.  I figured that out.  ::) )   But what did he practice?  How did he practice?  Did he write anything -- books, teaching ideas, anything at all?

Hi.

Although he was naturally gifted he trained under Czerny who was a strong supporter of excercises. For the firs few months he did NOTHING but technical excercises, scales, arpeggios, etc... This actually made the little Liszt very angry and he supposedly had a very sour relatinship with Czerny until he was allowed to play normal repertoire again. Apparently, Liszt technique up until now was, according to Czerny "Badly neglected." I don't think it takes a proffesional logician to figure out that excercises obviously DID help Liszt.

Although I don't recommend this because I find it unnecessarily confusing to the fingers, Liszt also practiced all his scales with all fingerings (ie: 12312345 for c# major)

When he was in his early 20s he locked himseful up and played nothing but techincal excercises for 10 hours a day.

When he DID learn repertoire, he was forced to learn it extremely quickly, forcing him to become an excellent sight-reader.

Hope this is what you were looking for.

Offline lisztisforkids

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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #2 on: April 12, 2006, 02:01:43 AM
Practiced every concievable form of technique inmaginable.....

He told his students that if they got their technique down, they would be ready for anything. It actually makes sense....  Repetoire is just made up of scale, thirds, arpegios, octaves,etc... If you have all that already down, then you can pretty much already play any peice!
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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #3 on: April 12, 2006, 11:06:56 AM
what about that 'lost work' he wrote? that would be useful in this area... a whole book on Liszt and his view on technique... lost forever... how annoying...
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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #4 on: April 12, 2006, 09:07:15 PM

When he was in his early 20s he locked himseful up and played nothing but techincal excercises for 10 hours a day.


Shame pianostreet was not around then, cause he would have learned that he was wasting his time.

All you need to do is play Scarlatti and rotate your wrists.

I mean, what the hell did Liszt know about piano playing.

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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #5 on: April 12, 2006, 10:52:42 PM
Shame pianostreet was not around then, cause he would have learned that he was wasting his time.

All you need to do is play Scarlatti and rotate your wrists.

I mean, what the hell did Liszt know about piano playing.

Thalx


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH  ;D :D

hahah awesome post.
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Offline mikey6

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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #6 on: April 13, 2006, 02:58:37 AM
Someone's publishes Liszt's excercises he used to play.  There's about 100 of them I think. ONe of my friends was working through them a while ago.
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Offline daniel patschan

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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 07:09:25 PM
Shame pianostreet was not around then, cause he would have learned that he was wasting his time.

All you need to do is play Scarlatti and rotate your wrists.

I mean, what the hell did Liszt know about piano playing.

Thalx

What a brilliant quote - you know something ? I just wanted to write exactly something like that today (about the Scarlatti thing). You actually forgot to tell that he just played 15 minutes per day and not a second longer - because this is, as we all know, the longest possible period during we are able to learn. 8)

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Re: How did Liszt get his technique?
Reply #8 on: April 14, 2006, 04:49:26 AM
Shame pianostreet was not around then, cause he would have learned that he was wasting his time.

All you need to do is play Scarlatti and rotate your wrists.

I mean, what the hell did Liszt know about piano playing.

Thalx

That is one the most brilliant things I have seen in many a day.
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