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Offline instromp

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Liszt Consolation No.3
on: May 02, 2006, 10:14:57 PM
Umm I just picked this up a few days ago and decided i give it a try.

When the r.h. starts with the l.h., are the notes "fitted" in there some kind of way that they arent played together but more like after one another?

Im not sure about this, so can someone help with this? Would be greatly appreciated. ;D

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Re: Liszt Consolation No.3
Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006, 03:53:13 AM
If you try and count the music, you'll notice that the left hand is in triplets. The right hand is normal, but there are measures that contain sixteenth notes. This means you'll be going against a two against three time pattern, and a four against three time pattern. Twos against threes are played, in this song, as such:

(Measure 4)

Left and right together, left, right, left. Left and right together, left, right, left.

The fours against threes are played in this song like this:

(Measure 6)

Left and right together, right, left, right, left right.


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Re: Liszt Consolation No.3
Reply #2 on: May 03, 2006, 07:54:32 AM
If you try and count the music, you'll notice that the left hand is in triplets. The right hand is normal, but there are measures that contain sixteenth notes. This means you'll be going against a two against three time pattern, and a four against three time pattern. Twos against threes are played, in this song, as such:

(Measure 4)

Left and right together, left, right, left. Left and right together, left, right, left.

The fours against threes are played in this song like this:

(Measure 6)

Left and right together, right, left, right, left right.


I just finished learning this piece. I can help you with it in any means necessary.

This is (sorry to say) not a very good explanation for playing 2 vs 3, because one who doesent understand it will get the rythm all wrong. As someone on this forum once said, when you play the 2 vs 3, just say the phrase: "Nice cup of tea", Where the words "nice, cup, tea" are the triplets, and "nice of" are the 2 notes to be played over them. just try clapping the words separately and ull get it.
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Re: Liszt Consolation No.3
Reply #3 on: May 03, 2006, 07:11:23 PM
If you try and count the music, you'll notice that the left hand is in triplets. The right hand is normal, but there are measures that contain sixteenth notes. This means you'll be going against a two against three time pattern, and a four against three time pattern. Twos against threes are played, in this song, as such:

(Measure 4)

Left and right together, left, right, left. Left and right together, left, right, left.

The fours against threes are played in this song like this:

(Measure 6)

Left and right together, right, left, right, left right.


I just finished learning this piece. I can help you with it in any means necessary.

Hmm okay, i will take ur advice into consideration,thanks :D
This is (sorry to say) not a very good explanation for playing 2 vs 3, because one who doesent understand it will get the rythm all wrong. As someone on this forum once said, when you play the 2 vs 3, just say the phrase: "Nice cup of tea", Where the words "nice, cup, tea" are the triplets, and "nice of" are the 2 notes to be played over them. just try clapping the words separately and ull get it.

Brings me back to kindergarten, but ok i will also do this.Thanks nicco ;D
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