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Offline crazy for ivan moravec

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i dont know if this has been posted already.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #1 on: May 18, 2006, 07:25:41 PM
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #2 on: May 18, 2006, 07:37:20 PM
this is beautifully played! very very impressive technique and phrasing! all the ZART haters need to listen to this!

the girl looks a bit demonic in some parts, but the smile at the end made up for it  8)



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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #3 on: May 18, 2006, 08:16:53 PM
Amazing really. Here we are all arguing over how hard mozart is to play, and then a 10-year old comes in and pulls it off like she had the experience of a 50 year old. The mystery of the human mind.
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #4 on: May 18, 2006, 09:37:23 PM
Wonderful...and that smile at the end.  ;D
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #5 on: May 18, 2006, 09:57:14 PM
Mozart was probably 10 when he wrote it, so maybe he's been reincarnated to play it to today's concert going folk.
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #6 on: May 18, 2006, 11:26:45 PM
Mozart was probably 10 when he wrote it, so maybe he's been reincarnated to play it to today's concert going folk.

Actually, he was 32 years old when he finished it... his first performance of this concerto was when he was 33.

https://www.proarte.org/notes/mozart4.htm
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #7 on: May 18, 2006, 11:35:20 PM
Actually, he was 32 years old when he finished it... his first performance of this concerto was when he was 33.

https://www.proarte.org/notes/mozart4.htm

hahah, i have a feeling the original commment was lighthearted.


And this girl  :o. How can a 10 year old even comprehend music on  such a level.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #8 on: May 18, 2006, 11:45:07 PM
HOTT, id hit it!!

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #9 on: May 18, 2006, 11:58:18 PM
HOTT, id hit it!!

........oh my.... how pedaephilicious ::)lm*o(eventhough thats not a word, you kno what i mean)
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #10 on: May 19, 2006, 12:15:17 AM
she has good hands ;)

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #11 on: May 19, 2006, 12:17:55 AM
wow!...one word for that....pregnant dog!  me thinks she lacks a stronger personality but at that age, she'll definitaly grow! how can a 10 year old use so much colour! ??? :-[
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #12 on: May 19, 2006, 01:17:31 AM
 :o
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #13 on: May 19, 2006, 03:20:31 AM
hahah, i have a feeling the original commment was lighthearted.


And this girl  :o. How can a 10 year old even comprehend music on  such a level.

Think back to when you were ten. Hell even five. Playing Mario bros. 1 and 3 without ever being hit by a single enemy. Playing Kickle Cubicle and solving every ridiculus puzzle the game threw at you. Beating your older brother and his friends at every game you played.

Or maybe that was just meh :-\
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #14 on: May 19, 2006, 04:54:59 AM
Think back to when you were ten. Hell even five. Playing Mario bros. 1 and 3 without ever being hit by a single enemy. Playing Kickle Cubicle and solving every ridiculus puzzle the game threw at you. Beating your older brother and his friends at every game you played.

Or maybe that was just meh :-\

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #15 on: May 19, 2006, 05:39:37 PM
emmdoubleew... I rest my case ::)






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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #16 on: May 19, 2006, 05:40:49 PM
About the recording, I think it is incredible, she has such style and grace, and musicality... wow... I am truly impressed.
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #17 on: May 19, 2006, 06:36:33 PM
I've been thinking...

How do we know that her musicality and style was completely off her own back and not all her parents work? I mean she is Asian, and relating to the topic about Asians it's a possibility that her parents have worked her to the bone to get a performance like this, and that everything she plays is a product of her parents telling her to do it this way and that.

However I'm not so sure about this being true from the smile she gave at the end, which showed she truly enjoyed playing it and that it's all her.



Then again, that smile might have been placed by the parents...
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EDIT: After reading through what I said, I'm kind of belittling her.... All I can hope is that what I have thought isn't true, and that we have a true child genious ;D
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #18 on: May 20, 2006, 12:07:07 AM
mozart always reminds me of flying over clouds looking down at busy ants.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #19 on: May 20, 2006, 09:12:50 AM
 :o :o :o
That's got to be the most impressive prodigy piano video I've ever seen...
The color and emotion at that age. It's even more impressive than that Jordan Adams Ocean Etude vid at age 10.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #20 on: May 20, 2006, 04:23:54 PM
i bet her parents made her practice for 12 hours a day!

her technique is very impressive; I would love to hear her play Beethoven's emperor concerto.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #21 on: May 20, 2006, 05:36:24 PM
emmdoubleew... I rest my case ::)






"A psychiatric survey has shown that ±90% of what others say about you has absolutely nothing to do with you at all but is only true about the speaker in question"

A psychiatric survey shows you are a tool.

pffft, I've never seen are more bullshit way of saying "takes one to know one," the typical 5 year-old defense. How absolutely childish and ridiculous.

Are you kidding me, this dude rambled for an entire paragraph about all the "amazing" things he was able to do as a kid. And I'm arrogant for calling him out?

You're wayyyy full of it.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #22 on: May 20, 2006, 11:35:31 PM
 :o :o :o

Wow!

I think I should stop playing  :'(
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #23 on: May 21, 2006, 05:14:37 AM
A psychiatric survey shows you are a tool.

pffft, I've never seen are more bullshit way of saying "takes one to know one," the typical 5 year-old defense. How absolutely childish and ridiculous.

Are you kidding me, this dude rambled for an entire paragraph about all the "amazing" things he was able to do as a kid. And I'm arrogant for calling him out?

You're wayyyy full of it.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #24 on: May 21, 2006, 06:00:30 AM
I have seen hundreds of similar videos.  Here on the west coast every master class is chocked full of kids just like this (I call it the parade of the little asian girls).  As an older person who works in IT, I also get to know their parents - or at least their equivalients.  Here's my take- be offended if you must -

they all play the same.  they are boring to listen to.  the girls HATE playing the piano - all the emoting is just an act - they are forced to play and their parents literally stand over them for 3 hours a day while they practice.  it's all part of "enduring mental torture" according to the parents.  their parents require that they win all their competitions to honor the family.  to do so, the parents will pay ANYTHING to get the best teachers for these kids.  The result is - the teachers are all booked with little asian girls who HATE the piano, and are really destined for medical or engineering school (this means someone like myself has to take what I can get even though I LOVE the piano).  for some reason you rarely see these kids becoms concert pianists, which logically follows from most of the above, so in my estimation they are just taking up space.
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #25 on: May 21, 2006, 06:25:05 AM
I have seen hundreds of similar videos.  Here on the west coast every master class is chocked full of kids just like this (I call it the parade of the little asian girls).  As an older person who works in IT, I also get to know their parents - or at least their equivalients.  Here's my take- be offended if you must -

they all play the same.  they are boring to listen to.  the girls HATE playing the piano - all the emoting is just an act - they are forced to play and their parents literally stand over them for 3 hours a day while they practice.  it's all part of "enduring mental torture" according to the parents.  their parents require that they win all their competitions to honor the family.  to do so, the parents will pay ANYTHING to get the best teachers for these kids.  The result is - the teachers are all booked with little asian girls who HATE the piano, and are really destined for medical or engineering school (this means someone like myself has to take what I can get even though I LOVE the piano).  for some reason you rarely see these kids becoms concert pianists, which logically follows from most of the above, so in my estimation they are just taking up space.

You say what many want to say but are too afraid...

*bows mah head*

Any child can be molded into a concert pianist. Much like anything made out of clay, though they look like pianists, or clay, they are simply clay, or whatever the hell they really are.

Ya geet what ahze sayin?

I child who smiles after playing chopsticks or fur elise is a happy child. I child who smiles after playing Schumann's  A minor, or Brahms's d minor, concerto is really crying on the inside.

A child who can play Rach's 3rd should truly be pitied (LangLang...ehem...cough).
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #26 on: May 21, 2006, 07:38:15 AM

Any child can be molded into a concert pianist. Much like anything made out of clay, though they look like pianists, or clay, they are simply clay, or whatever the hell they really are.


I wish my parents have molded me into one of those so that I don't have to struggle with my Mozart sonata at this age.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #27 on: May 21, 2006, 12:26:37 PM
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I've been thinking...

How do we know that her musicality and style was completely off her own back and not all her parents work? I mean she is Asian, and relating to the topic about Asians it's a possibility that her parents have worked her to the bone to get a performance like this, and that everything she plays is a product of her parents telling her to do it this way and that.

However I'm not so sure about this being true from the smile she gave at the end, which showed she truly enjoyed playing it and that it's all her.



Then again, that smile might have been placed by the parents...
Henrah


EDIT: After reading through what I said, I'm kind of belittling her.... All I can hope is that what I have thought isn't true, and that we have a true child genious
Come on !!! How can someone learn something on their own ?? Do you think Lang^2 learnt how to play Rach 3 by himself??

Of course behind any great pianist is a great teacher.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #28 on: May 21, 2006, 01:01:34 PM
I have seen hundreds of similar videos.  Here on the west coast every master class is chocked full of kids just like this (I call it the parade of the little asian girls).  As an older person who works in IT, I also get to know their parents - or at least their equivalients.  Here's my take- be offended if you must -

they all play the same.  they are boring to listen to.  the girls HATE playing the piano - all the emoting is just an act - they are forced to play and their parents literally stand over them for 3 hours a day while they practice.  it's all part of "enduring mental torture" according to the parents.  their parents require that they win all their competitions to honor the family.  to do so, the parents will pay ANYTHING to get the best teachers for these kids.  The result is - the teachers are all booked with little asian girls who HATE the piano, and are really destined for medical or engineering school (this means someone like myself has to take what I can get even though I LOVE the piano).  for some reason you rarely see these kids becoms concert pianists, which logically follows from most of the above, so in my estimation they are just taking up space.

Why is everyone so biased against good Asian pianists? When the video of the 10-yr-old playing the Ocean Etude was posted, I didn't see anyone saying "Maybe he   doesn't actually enjoy it, maybe his parents are pushing him." (although they did find other ways to criticize him unnecessarily). And I, personally, didn't find the video boring to listen to- did anyone else?
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #29 on: May 21, 2006, 07:52:19 PM
Why is everyone so biased against good Asian pianists? When the video of the 10-yr-old playing the Ocean Etude was posted, I didn't see anyone saying "Maybe he   doesn't actually enjoy it, maybe his parents are pushing him." (although they did find other ways to criticize him unnecessarily). And I, personally, didn't find the video boring to listen to- did anyone else?

I think the stereotype does hold some truth, but certainly does not apply to all (note that I am asian myself). I remember reading articles on jordan adams (Ocean etude pianist) and his parents, although they deeply cared about his musical development, said they never even ask him to practice, and would accept his quiting the piano without even asking questions. THat this little girl is already playing with an orchestra is a good sign the parents are probably involved (as I doubt the 10 year old went around signing up for auditions with orchestras), as opposed to Jordan Adams who was just messin around in a piano store.

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #30 on: May 21, 2006, 08:23:21 PM
You speak da truth MW.
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #31 on: May 21, 2006, 08:56:47 PM
This girl is amazing. So talented. She sounds like a professional pianist. Great future.
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #32 on: May 21, 2006, 10:05:53 PM
Dude (dudette)

Learn to chill. Ah thought that was about meh. Or a least a play on what Ah typed. But that might just be mah ego 8). Either way. Both post were jokes. Sure I was good at Mario but it took a couple months of practice (though ah didnt know that's what ah was doin), and ah only beat mah brother's friends most of the time. As for Kickle cubicle any elementary schooler could solve the puzzles ;)

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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #33 on: May 22, 2006, 01:39:16 AM
I wonder if she's tall enough to use pedal. Probably not judging from how she sit.
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Re: video, 10 year old girl - mozart coronation: very musical
Reply #34 on: May 22, 2006, 11:48:32 PM
Yeah she was sitting right on the very edge, and not really sitting at all. More perching.
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