Bach: Inventions & Sinfonias and unpublished Transcriptions

[hotthing]

My new recordings here : https://vincentroa.free.fr
you can here more than 70 minutes and of course, it's for free
enjoy!!

[piano121]

Hi, thanks for sharing your recordings. I love this pieces, you play them very, very well!

[yuc4h]

These recordings are pretty good. How long did it take to record all these?

[hotthing]

it's a long process, but in this work, time doesn't matter

thanks for your support!

[pianistimo]

someone took my earphones this morning.  have to wait to hear these.  boohoo.

[piano121]

Just add a few coments after listemning to the hole thing.

Your technique is very clean, wich is great for these pieces. BTW, I noticed places where you choose to drop some ornaments. Specialy, I miss the long cadences on inv 12, you droped then in te begining and then, you used some of them around the middle. On the other hand, I´m glad you did the long trills on inv4 . I know tehre are a few diferent versions by Bach himself, but I personaly like these oranmentes that he added latter. But that´s just my personal taste, I thik you play much better than I do.  I love the slightly non legato in some passages on the left hand, it get´s very nice when well played, just like you did. It´s a  very beautifull set.

[hotthing]

Thank you for your comment,
hope i'll hear your Bach recordings very soon

[emmdoubleew]

Very nice work, congratulations.

[arielpiano]

Hi Hotthing,
Wonderful interpratation but is it a real piano?

Ariel

[hotthing]

you're right it's not a "real piano" but a sampled piano, as soon as i'll have more time i'll explain on my site how i proceed for those recordings, and why i've made that choice. To make it short and be clear on one point, be sure i don't use any "allready made" midi files. From my point of view those are real interpretations even if i use sample sounds. My only purpose is to make sound the music i love the best i can without the money of a recording production.

thx for your comments
vr

[da jake]

Oh, that's disappointing. 

[hotthing]

[da jake]

Well, aesthetically, the recordings are nice (obviously a class way below Gould, anyway).

I just find it ironic and maybe a bit dishonest that you would place the following quote by the composer:

    "Véritable Introduction

    par laquelle il est montré d'une façon claire aux amateurs de clavier et principalement à ceux avides de l'apprendre, non seulement (1) comment on joue convenablement à deux voix, mais aussi comment, en progressant, (2) on doit procéder pour bien se servir des trois parties essentielles, et non seulement obtenir ainsi de bonnes inventions, mais aussi pour bien les exécuter et surtout acquérir l'art du cantabile et l'avant goût de la composition."

    J-S BACH - 1723

Using a sampled piano suggests that you haven't mastered 2-voice and 3-voice playing.

[hotthing]

Question : "is what you hear transformed by what you know (or don't know) on the interpreter, and the way he proceeds to record music ?"

[da jake]

Your recordings do have some merits: the rhythm is good and the notes are all hit cleanly (these two basic requirements are actually garbled by many pianists who record Bach). But after about a  minute I was thinking "this is nice, but the sound is a bit artificial and the playing is a bit lifeless". I couldn't tell it was a sampled piano, but I could tell that it was lacking some of the interpretational depth of better recordings I've heard.

FYI, the perceptive poster who asked you if it was a real piano is 8 years old.

So I'd say with some degree of confidence that what we hear is far more powerful that what we know when we judge an interpretation.

[hotthing]

Curious, you seem to know Gould, but you don't make any difference between a recording and a concert.
Anyway i'm also preparing the Sinventions for a live perfomance but it's not the same work.
The Bach introduction is perfectly justified, sorry you disagree.
 

[da jake]

Gould edited some of his later recordings. Gould was capable of sitting down at the piano and creating dozens of great interpretations of the same piece. Fascinated by the technology and striving for what he considered the perfect interpretation, he chose the best fragments and strung them together. His producers could seldom tell the difference between his complete take and the one that he edited to create.

Nobody who has heard his live recitals (Moscow/Salzburg) would argue that he was doing this to cover up his inability to play the piano.

[hotthing]

The Goldberg in Salzbourg is one of my favorite recording...

[da jake]

Mine too. 

[hotthing]

But there's a hudge difference on how you proceed on a recording and how you prepare a concert.
In that sens there's no way to compare those two actions. Even more the way i've recorded the I-S.

[daniloperusina]

I don't understand fully what you mean by sampled piano. How much of this is the actual work of your fingers playing this music, and what else did you do?

[daniloperusina]

I've tried to listen to this before, but the link never worked. I thought you were a concert pianist. Pictures of what looks like CD covers saying "Vincent Roa, Klavier/Piano". Presenting your stuff here as "my new recordings".

I managed to listen today. This is computerized music, not "recordings". Do not post such crap here again. You make a joke of us here who spend the better part of our lifes trying to perfect our playing.

/Danilo Perusina

[hotthing]

All right fair enough, i'll change the cover tomorow. I like this expression : "computerized".
I'll use it. But it's not computerized music, It's only computerized piano.
And those are recordings, what ever you may think.
It's not my point to make any joke about you, may i remind you that i have nothing to sell or to prove here, i was just trying to share music with you, not a performance, just music.

If you have the power to bane me from this forum please do it, if not, don't be so rude.

[iheartpiano]

Hi hotthing,

When you say sampled piano, do you mean that you are playing on a digital or electric piano for recording purposes?  Because it doesn't sound like 'computerized music' to me, it sounds like a digital piano. 

I very much enjoyed your interpretations btw.  I love Bach two-part inventions