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Offline franz_

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My first solo recital
on: May 22, 2006, 06:49:00 AM
Hi, I'm planning my first solo recital.
What do you guys think about my programm?

Scriabin: Preludes Op. 11 Nrs. 6-9-10-14
Rachmaninoff: Prelude Op. 3 Nr. 2
Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 Nr. 5
Rachmaninoff: Prelude Op. 23 Nr. 5
Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 Nr. 12
Chopin: Fantaisie-Impromptu Op. 66
(eventually): Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 Nr. 9

What do you think? Do you have suggestions (may be in order?) To long, to short?
Thanks a lot.
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #1 on: May 22, 2006, 08:24:33 AM
what's the total lenght?well,i would play all the scriabin and then all the rahmaninoff (or opposite,but not changing constantly) and than of course op.66

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #2 on: May 22, 2006, 08:30:48 AM
what's the total lenght?well,i would play all the scriabin and then all the rachmaninoff (or opposite,but not changing constantly) and than of course op.66
I think the lenght is about a small hour. So I wont take a break.
In the future I would like to give a whole Russian recital  :)
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #3 on: May 22, 2006, 09:01:47 AM
I think the lenght is about a small hour. So I wont take a break.
In the future I would like to give a whole Russian recital  :)

You should take at least a 10 min break for an hour recital IMO.

I'd also end with the Scriabin 8/12.  Also, if it's not a school recital, make sure you have a 2-3 minute piece as an encore.
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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006, 01:33:13 PM
You should take at least a 10 min break for an hour recital IMO.

I'd also end with the Scriabin 8/12.  Also, if it's not a school recital, make sure you have a 2-3 minute piece as an encore.
Yes I would play 8/12 at the end. And it's not a school recital, so as an encore... *thinking*
I could play a part of the Grieg sonata, but thats may be stupid. Chopin, minute waltz? his first polonaise? I don't know.
And isn't it stupid to take a break after 20/25min of playing?
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006, 02:12:35 PM
I think it's a good idea to have one 'big' work in your recital. Something to really look forward too, at least 10 minutes. If you can, the whole Grieg sonata would be absolutely wonderful.

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #6 on: May 22, 2006, 02:45:09 PM
I think it's a good idea to have one 'big' work in your recital. Something to really look forward too, at least 10 minutes. If you can, the whole Grieg sonata would be absolutely wonderful.
I'm working on that sonata. I know the 1st and 3rd part and almost the 2nd. But I'm a bit afraid of the last part. Anyway, when I want to finish the whole sonata, I need several months.
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #7 on: May 22, 2006, 08:23:08 PM
If you have the 1st part really well, then the 4th shouldn't be too difficult, it's just those trills in the left hand while playing the chords in the right hand that are a complete nightmare to perfect.
Interested in discussing:

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-Scriabin Sonata 2

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #8 on: May 22, 2006, 10:28:54 PM
how can you have a recitle without any bach? it's all loud and romantic... i'd so that's alot in your face, yoru audience needs a break every once in a while.

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #9 on: May 23, 2006, 12:18:22 PM
how can you have a recitle without any bach? it's all loud and romantic... i'd so that's alot in your face, yoru audience needs a break every once in a while.
I know, but in the first place, I am -sorry guys-  not very Bach-loving. And I think Bach would'nt be at his place in this programm. A romantic program is attractive I think, but may be there is not enough calmness, indeed.
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #10 on: May 23, 2006, 02:02:50 PM
Hi, franz_
your recital program is very interesting. I played most of the pieces you are playing. My only concern would be that it is a program very emotionally challenging, almost draining. The overall structure and order of your pieces are a little hazardous, don't you think? You may need something of sheer simplicity, something relaxing for your grandmother or girlfriend (?); maybe a Debussy image, or Czerny variations... Your program is very passionate, and at the end of the recital your audience may be impressed with your playing alone, leaving forgoten all the other noble characteristics of piano playing. I had to learn the hard way that a recital is not for promoting my own image but to share the beauty of the piece I love with an audience more or less educated.
However, you may be young and passionate, so you have plenty of time to learn these on your own (pardon my lecturing then). If you are sticking to this order, I would put the Scriabin at the end as a set. Start with Rachmaninoff (as a set) and put the Chopin second on the program. Last year I had a recital with Scriabin op. 8 # 8,9, 12 at the end and it worked out quite well.

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #11 on: May 23, 2006, 03:36:54 PM
Hi, franz_
your recital program is very interesting. I played most of the pieces you are playing. My only concern would be that it is a program very emotionally challenging, almost draining. The overall structure and order of your pieces are a little hazardous, don't you think? You may need something of sheer simplicity, something relaxing for your grandmother or girlfriend (?); maybe a Debussy image, or Czerny variations... Your program is very passionate, and at the end of the recital your audience may be impressed with your playing alone, leaving forgoten all the other noble characteristics of piano playing. I had to learn the hard way that a recital is not for promoting my own image but to share the beauty of the piece I love with an audience more or less educated.
However, you may be young and passionate, so you have plenty of time to learn these on your own (pardon my lecturing then). If you are sticking to this order, I would put the Scriabin at the end as a set. Start with Rachmaninoff (as a set) and put the Chopin second on the program. Last year I had a recital with Scriabin op. 8 # 8,9, 12 at the end and it worked out quite well.
Thank you, very interesting what you are saying. But do you mean that I have to play smtg like this:

- Scriabin: Preludes Op. 11 (6-9-10-14)
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8/5
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8/12

Break (10/15 min)

- Chopin: Fantaisie-Impr.
- Rachmaninoff: Prelude Op. 3/2
- Rachmaninoff: Prelude Op. 23/5
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33/9

Isn't it to short to take a break already after may be 20minutes of playing?
I will think about a relaxing piece to :)
Thanks in advance.
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #12 on: May 25, 2006, 09:36:39 PM
Wright, I will add Chopin: Scherzo No. 1
Currently learing:
- Chopin: Ballade No.3
- Scriabin: Etude Op. 8 No. 2
- Rachmaninoff: Etude Op. 33 No. 6
- Bach: P&F No 21 WTC I

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #13 on: May 25, 2006, 10:22:09 PM
how can you have a recitle without any bach? it's all loud and romantic... i'd so that's alot in your face, yoru audience needs a break every once in a while.

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Wright, I will add Chopin: Scherzo No. 1

im not too big a fan of this piece becase i find it too repetetetetive, bt tha will work in our favour when memorizn iit

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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #14 on: May 25, 2006, 10:28:38 PM
how can you have a recitle without any bach? it's all loud and romantic... i'd so that's alot in your face, yoru audience needs a break every once in a while.
a recital does not need bach, or any baroque for that matter, to be a good recital.
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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #15 on: May 26, 2006, 05:55:27 PM
there's one light beethoven piece you could add, not too difficult but very entertaining, that is, the eccosaises. i think it was transcribed by busoni. they would be fun to play and lighten the mood  a bit. or if you could maybe rage over a lost penny? 
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Re: My first solo recital
Reply #16 on: May 28, 2006, 06:17:32 AM
all i'm saying is... people come to see you. they see fast... they see flashy... the see overwhelmingly emotional swirls that just engulf your ears. they hear loud....  they hear and see all these things. but i think you have to show all aspects of your playing in order to truly express your thoughts to the audience... nto to mention a pianist that can play bach emotionally is always highly respected and regarded by everyone. if you can impress someone with bach, or mozart, or haydn it would give a diverse emotional distinction. it's hard for your audience to come hear  you, and hear an hour and a half of the same period of classical music over and over, leave them saying "wow i wish he'd have played for another hour" than leaving them saying "that was absolutely marvelous! but it was alot to take in... too many notes"
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