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Offline hodi

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Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
on: May 27, 2006, 01:50:56 PM
not 100% accurate.. but.. i want to hear your opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUlpkloEqQg
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Re: Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
Reply #1 on: May 27, 2006, 08:50:02 PM
I don´t much of this composer, but it sounds nice! Good job!

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Re: Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
Reply #2 on: May 28, 2006, 02:35:56 PM
You're in the beginning of this piece. I'm not talking about wrong notes (it's almost normal you play wrong notes in this piece).
But... did you study with a metronome? It is good for Bach, but Scriabin, you have accelerations, ritardando's,... I missed a bit the passion, it was all very straight. Listen to Horowitz version. Contrast, ppp and fff.
Try to progress and you will play good this prelude, techniqual there is no problem.
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Re: Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
Reply #3 on: May 28, 2006, 04:20:42 PM
You're in the beginning of this piece. I'm not talking about wrong notes (it's almost normal you play wrong notes in this piece).
But... did you study with a metronome? It is good for Bach, but Scriabin, you have accelerations, ritardando's,... I missed a bit the passion, it was all very straight. Listen to Horowitz version. Contrast, ppp and fff.
Try to progress and you will play good this prelude, techniqual there is no problem.

hi
thanks for the advices (will take them into consideration)
also, it was filmed with sony dsc-p43 digital camera.. not a video camera
so u can barely hear the dynamics if they exist :\

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Re: Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
Reply #4 on: May 28, 2006, 05:04:22 PM
a lot of pedal!  is rachmaninov and scribin similar?  it seems that way to me.  a very serious type of music.  you seem to pull it off with your deep bass - but, i'd like to hear some inner voicing more.   maybe lighten up the bass but still bring it out - but not to the exclusion of highlighting some things.  you can take colored pencil and just start highlighting what you think is important. 

of course, having a teacher tell you outright what it is you're looking for is good too.  with my teacher, he said to bring out the augmented fourths.  you do this with the bass when you accent the higher note a bit, but there must be some inner stuff that has the similar windy character. 

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Re: Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
Reply #5 on: May 28, 2006, 05:07:06 PM
i've not played any scribin, so take this with a grain of salt.  when you come to repeated notes - i would either crescendo or decresc. so that they are not 'buh, buh, buh.'  this pulls people into the stormy effect.

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Re: Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
Reply #6 on: May 28, 2006, 05:12:06 PM
do u think with pieces like this, it would be advantageous to record yourself - left hand alone - with very minor rubatos,e tc.  adn then play the tape to keep yourself on target (esp. with lh) tempo wise.

i would personally like to hear the beat just a touch faster (as you progress with the piece) but more stable at the beginning.  like you're in the middle of the storm at the start. 

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Re: Video - scriabin prelude op.11/14
Reply #7 on: June 06, 2006, 07:54:46 AM
It's very good. Franz_'s comments about rythymic flexibility are correct, and you seem to be glued to the keys a bit, as if you were playing Bach or Mozart. You will find it easier to manage the dynamic changes and project power if you play more from above, letting gravity be your friend. This is a good piece to develop that part of you technique ("from above") with. Apart from this it's excellent playing!
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