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Offline barnowl

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How's your Russian?
on: May 29, 2006, 10:35:06 PM
This past Friday, my piano teacher lent me a book of 35 short Russian etudes. They're for beginners, of course, and what intrigues me is,  that at the bottom of each little piece is a short line or two in Russian which I think is a direction of how it should be played..

The first piece is very very easy, but cute. Without the accent marks (which are tough if not impossible to recreate) the notation beneath it  reads:

Nacvik: levou rukou mozno nejdrive provicit v akordech. Venujte pozonorst v prave ruce vyraznejsi hre melodie za slabsiho doprovodu leve ruky.

Anyone want to take a crack at it?  ;D ;D ;D

Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 11:57:42 PM
Greetings.

As I speak Russian fluently, let me try.

Left hand might be          in chords.                           in right hand          melody                  left hand.


Can you post a picture of the text because I can't undestand some of the words you tried to spell in english.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #2 on: May 30, 2006, 02:28:19 AM
Without the accent marks (which are tough if not impossible to recreate) the notation beneath it  reads:

Hey! Wait a sec! What accent marks? There are no accent marks in russian. Further, are the letter cyrillic and you tried to transliterate or it is written in latin alphabet? If so, this is surely not russian, but some other eastern european language.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #3 on: May 30, 2006, 03:29:36 AM
It might be Polish. I have a Polish excercises book and the text is surprisingly akin to that of Russian. I can definately make out some of the words, but I will need to see the actual test to read it.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 05:06:53 AM
It might be Polish. I have a Polish excercises book and the text is surprisingly akin to that of Russian. I can definately make out some of the words, but I will need to see the actual test to read it.
It's not Polish; there are no Vs in the Polish language.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #5 on: May 30, 2006, 06:00:12 AM
i think it's serbian (i recognize some words, but i only know very little), and it says  something like "be careful to be extremely precise with the left hand chords and also be careful with ... [something about force/strength] of the melody in the right hand"

sorry, that's all i understand. i don't know too many words...  :(

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #6 on: May 30, 2006, 11:45:30 AM
How about Czech? I'm serious. My teacher's husband is Czechoslovakian—born in the Czech Republic, in fact. I'll have to ask her when I go for my Friday lesson.

Sorry folks. Since Natalia's from Russia, I assumed the ALBUM ETUD was also Russian.

If I can get my scanner working right, I'll copy the first etude, replete with the text,  to the board as an attachment. Your kids will love it. I do. It is just my speed.  :) :) :)

I have Finale NotePad, which is a bit hard to learn— for me, that is.. I've been thinking about inputting all the pieces into that program (with the text translated), if only I can learn how to use it. No book, just HELP, and it's a bear for this Luddite.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 02:55:32 PM
ALBUM ETUD was also Russian.


That's definately not Russian. I would know, since I speak Russian fluently.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #8 on: May 30, 2006, 05:54:32 PM


Nacvik: levou rukou mozno nejdrive provicit v akordech. Venujte pozonorst v prave ruce vyraznejsi hre melodie za slabsiho doprovodu leve ruky.

Anyone want to take a crack at it?  ;D ;D ;D

Practice: if possible, first excercise the left hand in chords. Pay attention to the melody in right hand against softer accompainment in the left.

Rough translation
It is czech

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #9 on: May 30, 2006, 07:16:06 PM
Practice: if possible, first excercise the left hand in chords. Pay attention to the melody in right hand against softer accompaniment in the left.

Rough translation
It is czech

Thanks! It looks pretty smooth to me, StageFright. In fact I'm going to memorize it for my next lesson. Teacher will either ask what I think they should be, or she might start to translate. "Wait, wait, Natalia, let me take a stab at it." [CONCENTRATING FIERCELY, FOR JUST A BEAT]  "Hmm. I think it says, "'Practice: If possible, exercise the left hand..." and so on to the finish.  I love harmless little jokes like that.

Now.

Can someone please tell me how to post an attachment. It'll have to be in language as to a dull normal. Mrs BarnOwl and I are baby sitting our daughter's twins, at the moment, but when we get home, I'll show you the first Etud ( :) ) as well as the Czech directions—if someone plays the Good Samaritan, and I develop a brain.

Also, I'll apreciate any scanning tips. I've tried to email crossword puzzle attachments, and they often come out Giganto at the recipients address.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #10 on: June 01, 2006, 02:17:49 AM
Here, at last is the pic of the first Etude in ALBUM ETUD.

Don't quail at the Rachmanninoff complexity. In the hands of a virtuoso of my caliber,
I almost make it sound like child's play. 8)

And notice the Czech directions beneath.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #11 on: June 01, 2006, 03:26:31 AM
Yep, that's not exactly Russian.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #12 on: June 16, 2006, 03:36:31 PM
I can read Russian and I can assure you that it's not Russian on there :)
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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #13 on: June 16, 2006, 04:20:43 PM
I can read Russian and I can assure you that it's not Russian on there :)

I love you PrincessDecadence.  More than Doc, more than Dopey, and Sneezy and Grumpy, and the Keeblers, too.

You make me laugh.  :) :) :)

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #14 on: June 16, 2006, 06:55:04 PM
I love you PrincessDecadence.  More than Doc, more than Dopey, and Sneezy and Grumpy, and the Keeblers, too.

You make me laugh.  :) :) :)

Oh no do I have a stalker?  :P

Strange things...
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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #15 on: June 16, 2006, 08:45:45 PM
Oh no do I have a stalker?  :P

Strange things...

Oh Lord no.

Forget I ever talked to you.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #16 on: June 16, 2006, 11:56:16 PM
Yeah, that's definately not Russian!

It looks like some sort of east european language, like czech or hungarian or something like that.

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Re: How's your Russian?
Reply #17 on: June 17, 2006, 12:09:31 AM
Yeah, that's definately not Russian!

It looks like some sort of east european language, like czech or hungarian or something like that.

It is Czech, Nightscape.

And if you read StageFright's post (number 10) above, you'll see that it translates to:

Practice: if possible, first excercise the left hand in chords. Pay attention to the melody in right hand against softer accompainment in the left.

So, my teacher comes from Russia. (Her husband was born in the Czech Republic. The Album Etud was his sister's. She too is a Czech.) So after reading that post, when I went to play the Etude in my next lesson, I looked at the directions and, as if reading it,   I recited the translation from memory. Teacher's eyebrows rose to the ceiling. "You speak Czech?" she asked incredulously.

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