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Offline pianonewbie

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Full notes
on: June 05, 2006, 06:12:31 PM
Hello,

I've got one issue learning to play piano... Since you are in the music very long time a bet you will solve it, that would be great, now I'm learning to play both hands and some new notes for the left hand...

A day ago I learned this symbol _ meaning, it means hold for one more beat, right? If it would be C -, that would mean hold C one more beat, right? OK J

Now I've learned WHOLE NOTE, let's say C chord full note would look something like this (second note in picture):

This means hold for four beats, right?

Ok. So what's the difference would be between:



If – means wait one more beat, theres four of them, and that full note means wait for four beats... they do mean the same then, huh?

Another question (ignore red color):




If full note means wait for four beats... well lets view at first full note, when I will play it, it means wait for four beats, and that would be exactly till another one full note, so why the creator if this „song" havent moved second full note bit more right? Cause I can't hold full note at once and play it again... Please help me, thanks.

Have a Nice Day.

Offline tac-tics

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Re: Full notes
Reply #1 on: June 06, 2006, 01:47:17 AM
I understand English is not your native language, but you may need to clarify what you mean. Also, be careful about non-Latin characters because they may not display correctly on these forums.

You said that "– means wait one more beat," but I do not think this is part of standard music notation. Where did you hear or read about this? Do you have a book on piano? If so, which book to you have? Also, if you can afford it, you should invest in a teacher

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Re: Full notes
Reply #2 on: June 06, 2006, 07:57:02 AM
I understand English is not your native language, but you may need to clarify what you mean. Also, be careful about non-Latin characters because they may not display correctly on these forums.

You said that "– means wait one more beat," but I do not think this is part of standard music notation. Where did you hear or read about this? Do you have a book on piano? If so, which book to you have? Also, if you can afford it, you should invest in a teacher

Hello, I was reading https://www.learnpianoonline.com/lesson3/page7.html

I'm thinking about teacher, but I want to learn basica by myself

Offline gyzzzmo

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Re: Full notes
Reply #3 on: June 07, 2006, 12:05:53 AM
if youre dutch you may try to explain it again, in dutch if you find that more convenient.
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Re: Full notes
Reply #4 on: June 07, 2006, 10:41:23 AM
Where did you hear about the "--" symbol?  I went through that site and I can't find it.  To my knowledge there is no symbol that means to hold a note longer by exactly one beat. 

Frequently you will see a dot immediately to the right of a note and that means to hold the note for it's inherent value PLUS half the value more.  So a dotted quarter note in 4/4 time will have 1 1/2 beats.  You can also "tie" another quarter note to that first quarter note using a curved line (called a tie), and if the second note is the same letter note as the first, then you hold the note down for the value of both notes.

I've never heard of what you're talking about with a "--".  Perhaps I have misunderstood your question?
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Re: Full notes
Reply #5 on: June 07, 2006, 07:14:51 PM
Hmmm....  If this helps....

For now, you can think a quarter gets one count of sound.  A whole note gets four beats of sound. 

In English, no one uses the term "full note."  I think you mean "whole note."

On piano you strike the note.  On another instrument the performer has more control of the sound after the attack (point where it starts sounding).  I wouldn't use the term "wait" for whole notes since the note is still sounding.

Each note has three parts -- attack, body, and release.  The attack is how the note is starts.  The body is the main part of the sound.  The release is how the note ends. 

Four quarter notes would have four separate attacks.  "Ta, ta, ta, ta." A whole note would only have one.  "Ta-a-a-a."  But four quarter notes is equal in time to one whole note.  The whole note would be one long sound equal to the time of four quarters.

Be aware that the quarter doesn't always get one beat.  A lot of music is written where a quarter note is equal to one beat, but not all.  Sometimes the half note or eighth note gets one beat.  Be aware of the relationship (ratio) between note values.  1 whole note = 2 half notes = 4 quarter notes = 8 eighth notes.

There can be small differences in notation.  One way is to position the notes in the measure in terms of when they start -- So a whole note would appear on "beat 1" because it starts sounding on beat 1, as opposed to being placed in the center of the measure (which might make it more confusing to read).
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Re: Full notes
Reply #6 on: June 08, 2006, 08:51:49 AM
Bob - Thank you so much for your answer, you helped me a lot :)
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