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Offline verywellmister

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After Jeux d'eau
on: June 08, 2006, 05:53:01 PM
After Jeux d'eau, what do you think is a good French piece to work on?
Stuff like Debussy, Messiaen, Poulenc.
Needs to be more of a challenge but not impossible.

Help please?

Thanks.
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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #1 on: June 08, 2006, 07:13:42 PM
just wondering why u'd want more french pieces.  isn't that enough?  ok.  i'm speaking for myself.  what about poulenc's spanish friend, pianist, and composer ricardo vines?  he wrote a piano sonata that uses almost all 88 keys of the piano.  'luz y sonida.'  just a wild idea.

ps.  i happen to love poulenc myself and am working his 'nocturne' (only 4 pages, too!) and 'trois pieces.' 

i've been wanting to relearn faure's 'theme and variations.'  it's a farily difficult, beautiful, and moody piece - but maybe too melancholy for most people.  might be something to play if ur having a rainy day.  there's some beautiful harmonies in it.

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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #2 on: June 08, 2006, 07:19:37 PM
say, i happened to see on amazon a book entitled 'debussy in proportion.'  it looked like interesting reading.  u can read excerpts online.  i never really thought debussy was interested in proportion per se - but simply the sounds of the notes when played quickly in succession.  this book gives me a new perspective on his use of 'the golden mean' much like mozart.  u can find in mozart exact golden mean proportions.  it is quite interesting to hear this about debussy.

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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #3 on: June 08, 2006, 07:41:57 PM
say, i happened to see on amazon a book entitled 'debussy in proportion.'  it looked like interesting reading.  u can read excerpts online.  i never really thought debussy was interested in proportion per se - but simply the sounds of the notes when played quickly in succession.  this book gives me a new perspective on his use of 'the golden mean' much like mozart.  u can find in mozart exact golden mean proportions.  it is quite interesting to hear this about debussy.

some people read way too much into things  ::)

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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #4 on: June 08, 2006, 07:44:35 PM
jeux d'eau is quite a challenge so nothing will be too difficult for you. i suggest ondine, tombeau de coup or even maybe feux d'artifice? or l'isle joyeuse!! do l'isle joyeuse
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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #5 on: June 08, 2006, 08:46:44 PM
do you think poissons d'or (images ii) or l'isle joyeuse is more awkward? 

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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #6 on: June 09, 2006, 12:05:58 AM
do you think poissons d'or (images ii) or l'isle joyeuse is more awkward? 

poissons d'or is easier to learn, isle joyeuse is easier to pull off

does that make sense?

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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #7 on: June 09, 2006, 07:04:51 PM
if you can play jeux d'eau...i absolutely adore you! that is my vary favorite piano piece...i've tried to play it and i get to the second page and i fall over b/c my head hurts so bad  ;D so i am very excited for you and i would suggest a product called "CD Sheet Music" from SheetMusicPlus. you can find this product here --> https://sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?cart=3358854060336709&item=4070928 and here --> https://sheetmusicplus.com/store/smp_detail.html?cart=3358854060336709&item=4070914 i got both of these CD's (and quite a few of the others) and these are one of the greatest sheet music products that i have found...over 1000 pages of music for $11...WONDERFUL! these CD's have a bunch of music on them (but if you want something other than debussy or faure then get the piano music part 1)
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Re: After Jeux d'eau
Reply #8 on: June 10, 2006, 04:39:30 AM
the works of Faure are looked over, the Variation and the Nocturnes are beautiful pieces and challenging as well. The poulenc nocturnes are great too, a friend of mine played 4 as a set in our French piano  music recital. I played some of the Ibert Histoires and a Faure  Nocturne (#4 in Eb). There is more than just the usual Debussy and Ravel piece to choose from--happy hunting!


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