doesn't it say my name is Martha?look, whatever. the point is that this isn't like a discussion on fox-hunting or abortion, where there are views either side.you can't dispute things that are FACT. so you are wrongit is not the fact that you are wrong that I have a problem with. it is the fact that you believe you are right and believe that you can diss other members who have got the right idea, or be sarcastic about it, when I have not even seen you come up with any mathematical proof that it doesn't equal one.
I don't get it. I honestly state my views and all of a sudden I'm covering something up. It's amazing that I've been initially attacked with the insults and insinuations and I’m the bad guy; the fact is steveie986 started the insults just because I stated opposing views – then a couple other members jumped on the bandwagon like déjà vu who had no idea what the hell he was talking about.Kelly, please be more specific, it's not making any sense. I think you want to be accepted into the Steveie986 Idiot Club so bad that it's fogging up you sense of reality. The only way you'll become part of their club Kelly is to turn over your free thoughts and believe whatever they tell you on blind faith. Here's a suggestion; copy this entire thread, then in a couple years come back and read it - I think you'll be surprised at how differently you interpret this thread.Best, John
More specific about what? I'm sorry; I'm not good at simplifying things for idiots. Exactly! Thank you, deja vu!
Totally off topic, but within 9 days this thread has over 200 replys and 1000 reads. Maybe I should start at post #1.
stevie: I cannot believe that you disputed what I was telling you, and then copied and pasted my proof to someone else.
okay, john, I shall now set an example for you:I was wrong in assuming that my profile would state my name.There you are. see, it isn't that difficult to admit you are wrong, is it?Now.... your turn.
.999... goes on forever without ever reaching 1 – but its fine with me if you accept a rule that rounds it off to 1. That sounds like a practical rule. I’ll give you that much.John
infinity is real. it has it's own symbol. ~.
I'll post this on behalf of Johnny-Boy: Theories are by nature flawed because they were made up by math professors who are smarter than me so they must be trying to fool me. I must trust my own idiotic "common sense." Those who say 0.999... = 1 do so only because they blindly trust the textbooks and are too insecure to trust their own good sense.
ur resorting to unlogic.
.01bar is important then?where can we find this little smidgeon? even if it doesn't APPEAR to exist - it has to - to change everything to 1. maybe it's a snail dropping.
Are you an idiot? What kind of conspiracy-theorist bullshit is this? It seems you are afraid of math because you do not understand it. You don't need your "own good sense" to learn math, that's just plain silly. You don't use a "gut feeling" for math, you use logic. As I said before, logic tells us that the difference between 1 and .999bar is .01bar. This implies a number where there are an infinite number of zeroes after the decimal, followed by a one. But if you consider this number logically, it cannot exist. Where does the one lie? It has no defined place. A number without defined digits is not defined, and therefore does not exist. If you can't define a number, it doesn't exist. And for you wise-cracks out there, "infinity" is not a number, it's a concept used to express unlimited growth. QED.
Haha, please read the entire thread before getting too excited (actually, never mind, it'll make you want to kill yourself). I was not expressing my own opinion; rather, I was stating simply what Johnny-Boy would have said. I agree exactly with your reaction, except I'm not the idiot, but Johnny-Boy, whose breathtaking ignorance I was mocking.
Do you mean illogic? And please, do us the favor, and point out the illogic in his argument. Well, actually, I'll save you the trouble. His non sequitur was that because people who are religious exhibit counter-intellectualism and tunnel vision that religion itself must entail stupidity. My friend, correlation does not prove causation. Just because someone is stupid AND religious, doesn't mean that religion causes stupidity.
I am going to be blunt and judgmental but say this: the "devout" christians -- stevie986 and pianitismo -- sound like blithering idiots on this thread. Testament to the axiom that religion is an intelligence to some, stupidity for most. (Not word for word)
You know what, you foolish godless mathematicians are going to HELLLL. I hate to say this, but God takes heresy very seriously. The kind of blasphemy they teach in school these days is ridiculous. Evolution is sinful enough as it is, but what's more alarming is that worldwide children are being taught such unbiblical mathematical principles. The heresy that 0.999... = 1 is directly related to the idea that Pi is 3.1... IT'S NOT BECAUSE SCRIPTURE CLEARLY SAYS ITS 3. THREE. NOT THREE AND SOMETHING BUT EXACTLY THREE. I mean if youre gonna argue 0.999... = 1 then 0.998... also = 1 and so 3.1... = 3 follows. This all leads to a GREAT HERESY that will get you landed in an afterlife with SATAN. Repent. Mathematics is work of the devil.
Fair enough. And yes, some people's stupidity is so astronomical, it makes me want to comit suicide. No I'm not kidding.(Glad to know you weren't the culprit Stevie, I always knew Alkan fans had merit) :-)
One thing we all have in common on this site is our love for piano music. Maybe it's time for some soothing music. Here's a piece composed by yours truly - aka the idiot."Remembering Her"https://www.artistcollaboration.com/~johnny-boy/Remembering%20Her.mp3Best, John
That piece right there, yeah, I was listening to it, and I fell asleep. BO-RING. Throw in some development and you'll have something one step above that piano music you hear in really bad drama movies where there is some girl crying on a couch and you hear a 12 year old in the background playing arpeggiated minor chords with added seconds and ninths for a dissonant, woeful effect.Yeah, try modulating, changing keys, using a deceptive cadence, even a pause to heighten the inflated level of suspense, then you'll have a piece worth listening to (or staying awake for, rather).
Whoa, two Stevies...which one is which? IDENTIFY YOURSELVES AT ONCE!-Max
Haha, please read the entire thread before getting too excited (actually, never mind, it'll make you want to kill yourself). I was not expressing my own opinion; rather, I was stating simply what Johnny-Boy would have said. I agree exactly with your reaction, except I'm not the idiot, but Johnny-Boy, whose breathtaking ignorance I was mocking. -steveie986 No that's not at all what I said or what I would have said. I stated from the beginning that .999... isn't "1" and never will be “1”. And it isn't!In the future please don't speak for me steveie986; you have enough trouble making yourself understood with all your idiotic thinking.But here is one of your quotes to show people a little about your character:I'm too intelligent to serve in the military. I support our men and women in uniform, but my superior mind would be wasted in the military. I prefer to spend my time flaming math idiots on the Internets and earning degrees and playing the piano and writing poetry and making money. If I were dumber I'd definitely fight for my country, but when there's other guys doing it for you, why do you need to? It's all about comparative advantages and performing at your maximum utility. - steveie986John
John, how does that kind of retort exonerate yourself? You're still on trial for your "idiotic thinking" regarding .999bar and 1. After extensive proofs, you're still not convinced? Do me a favor: show me how my line of logic is flawed, or point out an error in my reasoning to show people you're at least making a factual argument instead of a spurious one.For those of you who haven't read my earlier posts, I showed that if Johnny-Boy is right, there must be a difference between .999bar and 1. Then I showed how this difference cannot exist (called a reverse-proof). The difference would have to be .01bar, and since this number is undefined (look it up - no number can follow a repeating sequence (i.e. .01bar, the one following after an infinite number of zeroes). .01 is not a number, and therefore there is no difference. Thus .999bar must equal one.I used this reverse proof in case skeptics didn't buy the more mainstream proof shown below:x = .999bar10x = 9.999bar10x – x = 9x = 9x = 1This works too, just imagine doing 9.999 - .999 and you get 9, which is 9x, so x must be 1. Happy?-Max
On trial? Baloney!9.999 - .999 = 9 (I agree). And .999 is still .999 and not 1.Case clossed.
I'm not going to reply to the rude remarks made about my music. If they were just honest critiques it would have been one thing, but the remarks were just plain nasty.
Stalemate.
Oh, and in case I haven't already said this three times, I'll say it again. If you can't define a number, it can't exist. That is one of the tenets of mathematics. And if you think about it, doesn't that make sense? You can't define .01bar because you can't define where the 1 goes. WHERE THE *** DOES IT GO? YOU DON'T KNOW!
You can always tell you've got a good argument going on when people are calling each other stupid and slating their music. You'll be correcting each others' spelling and grammar soon...
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