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Offline Bob

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What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BWV 90
on: June 21, 2006, 03:11:25 PM
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Offline gonzalo

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Re: What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BWV 90
Reply #1 on: June 21, 2006, 03:38:58 PM
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A chromatic fantasia is a specific form of fantasia (or fantasy or fancy) originating in sixteenth century Europe. In its earliest form, it is based on a chromatically descending tetrachord which arises naturally out of the dorian mode. Consequently the chromatic fantasia is almost invariably in d-minor even as late as Bach.


I guess it just refers to that kind of fantasia described above.
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Re: What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BWV 90
Reply #2 on: June 21, 2006, 03:44:14 PM
Quote from: gonzalo on June 21, 2006, 03:38:58 PM
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A chromatic fantasia is a specific form of fantasia (or fantasy or fancy) originating in sixteenth century Europe. In its earliest form, it is based on a chromatically descending tetrachord which arises naturally out of the dorian mode. Consequently the chromatic fantasia is almost invariably in d-minor even as late as Bach.


I guess it just refers to that kind of fantasia described above.
Wow thanks.  Hmm.  notice that Rachmaninoff's Third Concerto/Mazeppa are based on descending chord schemes and are in d minor...  8)
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Re: What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BWV 90
Reply #3 on: June 21, 2006, 04:30:56 PM
I thought it was due to the chromatic nature of the fugue subject.
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Re: What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BWV 90
Reply #4 on: June 21, 2006, 04:45:37 PM
Quote from: dnephi on June 21, 2006, 03:44:14 PM
Wow thanks.  Hmm.  notice that Rachmaninoff's Third Concerto/Mazeppa are based on descending chord schemes and are in d minor...  8)
Liszt's Dante Sonata too!
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Offline mike_lang

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Re: What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BW
Reply #5 on: June 21, 2006, 09:58:45 PM
Quote from: minor9th on June 21, 2006, 04:30:56 PM
I thought it was due to the chromatic nature of the fugue subject.

Yes, and how about the chromatic descent in the coda of the fantasy?

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Re: What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BW
Reply #6 on: June 23, 2006, 09:26:28 PM
listen to the sorabji transcription of this... it will blow your mind :)
Tom


Oh, and i thought it was BWV 903???
Tom
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Offline minor9th

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Re: What does the "chromatic" refer to in Bach's Chromatic Fugue and Fantasia BW
Reply #7 on: June 24, 2006, 04:43:39 PM
Quote from: tompilk on June 23, 2006, 09:26:28 PM
listen to the sorabji transcription of this... it will blow your mind :)
Tom


Oh, and i thought it was BWV 903???
Tom

I wish he used the original fugue...
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