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Offline Rach3

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Brahms f-minor sonata
on: December 21, 2003, 05:46:34 AM
Another brilliant, tragic, intoxicating Brahms epic. Is it just me, or is this a bit underplayed or underestimated (it is one of his earliest published works)? How difficult is it?
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #1 on: December 21, 2003, 05:47:15 AM
Oh and what are other good recordings?
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #2 on: December 22, 2003, 05:21:26 AM
This piece certainly evokes great enthusiasm from the board.

I suspect that this is a very underplayed, obscure gem of a sonata.
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #3 on: December 24, 2003, 08:04:33 AM
Err... anyone?

I am refering to Brahms' third sonata, op. 5. He wrote two earlier sonatas (some nice backround). Presumably he was relatively young, this is an earlier, less "mature" work, probably considered "inferior" by stiff-collared pianists (just guessing here). It is in FIVE movements, and it is very Brahms-ish.
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #4 on: January 03, 2004, 08:56:17 AM
I like Brahms.
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #5 on: January 03, 2004, 09:09:10 AM
I'll listen to it when I get home on Tuesday,
Ed

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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #6 on: January 03, 2004, 06:35:01 PM
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Another brilliant, tragic, intoxicating Brahms epic. Is it just me, or is this a bit underplayed or underestimated (it is one of his earliest published works)? How difficult is it?



 I must admit, that I'm not the biggest fan of this piece, aside from the slow movement which is utterly amazing.  I actually have a fondness for the 2nd sonata in F# (written when he was 17!), which Lupu and Richter have fabulous recordings of.  
 As far as a fave performance of the 3rd sonata, I like Curzon and Katchen (especially the live performance)
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #7 on: January 05, 2004, 04:53:41 AM
I don't know.. the third sonata is the least weird of the first three, but it's still pretty weird. I think it's a great piece, and I like it quite a bit, and the first movement's very powerful, but then i also like the first two sonatas.

I prefer later brahms though. ;D
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #8 on: January 05, 2004, 07:06:30 AM
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the third sonata is the least weird of the first three,


There are more?? My purpose in life is redefined.
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #9 on: January 05, 2004, 08:12:28 AM
There are only three in Julius Katchen's complete Brahms piano works,
Ed

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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #10 on: January 05, 2004, 04:19:19 PM
Rubinstein's 1949 recording's not too bad. It's the only one I've heard though.
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #11 on: January 06, 2004, 02:27:08 AM
I'm sorry, the "first" of the "first three" should not have been there. Hasty typo.
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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #12 on: January 06, 2004, 02:37:24 PM
I have heard two recordings of it, Cortot's (not sure) and Rubinsteins. And i preferred Rubinsteins. IMO the scherzo in this sonata is definitely one of the most original pieces Brahms has ever written. And the other movements are not bad either.

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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #13 on: January 06, 2004, 02:37:53 PM
It looks as though you will have to redefine your purpose once more Rach3 :),
Ed

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Re: Brahms f-minor sonata
Reply #14 on: January 06, 2004, 08:16:48 PM
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It looks as though you will have to redefine your purpose once more Rach3 :),
Ed


wow. I've defined his purpose in life twice in a week without meaning to. What kind of harm can I do when I actually MEAN to do it?! MUHAHAHAHAHA ;D
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