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Topic: How the heck am I supposed to play this?  (Read 1735 times)

Offline persona

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How the heck am I supposed to play this?
on: June 26, 2006, 02:09:42 AM
I can play this passage by slowing it down a little, but I'm not sure it's fisically possible to play this chord right after the trill at allegro speed, with no pause whatsoever. Is this trill misplaced or what?

PS: the key is D Major

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Re: How the heck am I supposed to play this?
Reply #1 on: June 26, 2006, 03:40:15 AM
     It's possible, through practice... Can you upload a picture of those measures with a couple of measures before them? I could probably tell you how to finger it correctly and make it a bit easier if I had that...
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Re: How the heck am I supposed to play this?
Reply #2 on: June 26, 2006, 04:28:10 AM
I can play this passage by slowing it down a little, but I'm not sure it's fisically possible to play this chord right after the trill at allegro speed, with no pause whatsoever. Is this trill misplaced or what?

PS: the key is D Major

Uhh, yes, it is "physically" possible, but I'm not sure if it's "fisically" possible. If you aren't familiar with classical trills, I believe you start on the note above, trill down, and towards the end of the trill, you play a note below, and then the original note again before playing the D major chord. This isn't exactly any kind of technical feat...

The real question is this: is playing Alkan's Le Preux at full tempo possible during the coda? Those octaves are RIDICULOUS! AHHHHH!

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My favorite piano pieces - Liszt Sonata in B minor, Beethoven's Hammerklavier, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit, Alkan's Op. 39 Etudes, Scriabin's Sonata-Fantaisie, Godowsky's Passacaglia in B minor.

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Re: How the heck am I supposed to play this?
Reply #3 on: June 26, 2006, 04:42:06 AM
piano guy: here is the full beat (I'm currently using 1 3 2 1 3 2 1, then 2-3 for the trill, and finally 1-2-5 for the D major)

bflatminor24: I belive you are wrong about how to play this trill (I think it's supposed to go E F# E F# E)

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Re: How the heck am I supposed to play this?
Reply #4 on: June 26, 2006, 04:50:33 AM
piano guy: here is the full beat (I'm currently using 1 3 2 1 3 2 1, then 2-3 for the trill, and finally 1-2-5 for the D major)

bflatminor24: I belive you are wrong about how to play this trill (I think it's supposed to go E F# E F# E)

Trill: 53535354 Chord-421

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Re: How the heck am I supposed to play this?
Reply #5 on: June 26, 2006, 05:19:27 AM
You could do it as mentioned above, or you could keep your current fingering except change the fingering of the D major chord to 1-2-4 or 2-3-5 (whichever is easier for you). Both these options put your right hand in a much less awkward position on the chord than 1-2-5. You'll have a slight jump to hit the chord, but just practice it over and over, and eventually it'll come with ease.
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Re: How the heck am I supposed to play this?
Reply #6 on: June 26, 2006, 08:09:09 AM
I think this option could be good. Try it slow and every tone loud. After some time if you think you are ready try to speed up and play using right dynamics.

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