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Offline Nightscape

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World's Easiest Piece?
on: June 29, 2006, 03:43:49 AM
What is the easiest piece of music written by one of the great composers?  No excersises allowed - it must be an actual piece.


I'm talking about a piece so unbelievably, mind-bogglingly easy that even the least renowned and talented pianist can still make sound good.

I'm talking about a piece of music so easy, so unbelievably easy, it makes Paris Hilton look hard.

I'm talking about of piece of music that has inspired an entire generation to rally themselves for the causes of right and wrong, music that sings true to the soul and yet speaks a fountain of eloquence, a piece so utterly devoid of technical and musical contraptions that only the most revered of wiseman can say without provocation that it is in fact that world's easiest piece - easy enough in fact to devour an entire mountain of difficulty, and to cause a mental quake the size of monsoon in January and without even blinking an eye to refute any claims to the latter, or former for that matter.

So what is it?

Offline phil13

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #1 on: June 29, 2006, 03:47:21 AM
That damn piece where you roll your knuckle over the black keys.

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #2 on: June 29, 2006, 03:53:07 AM
No, that requires good wrist control...  :P There must be an easier piece...
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #3 on: June 29, 2006, 03:56:00 AM
Hot Cross Buns?

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #4 on: June 29, 2006, 04:07:31 AM
cage 4'33"
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #5 on: June 29, 2006, 04:38:03 AM
The Rachmaninov 3rd Concerto.  Jezz guys, way to be on top of things.

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #6 on: June 29, 2006, 04:56:59 AM
The Rachmaninov 3rd Concerto.  Jezz guys, way to be on top of things.
nah. finnissy's english country tunes are way easier.
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #7 on: June 29, 2006, 09:55:17 AM
nah. finnissy's english country tunes are way easier.
or maybe his some.fall.up...

or maybe even The Skeptopotamus's Song (it's a kind of - er - soliloquy, I think...)

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #8 on: June 29, 2006, 05:18:26 PM
the kids version of fur elise. i found out lately that i could play the whole pirst part of the original fur elise with just 2 fingers...( try it youself)
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #9 on: June 29, 2006, 07:28:06 PM
Chopsticks?

 Can anybody upload Liszts transcription of it?
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #10 on: June 29, 2006, 07:41:01 PM
the kids version of fur elise. i found out lately that i could play the whole pirst part of the original fur elise with just 2 fingers...( try it youself)
my friend could play this within a week and he doesnt play the piano!
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #11 on: June 30, 2006, 04:37:18 PM
that's a tough one. how about the musette in d major by Bach.  lol

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #12 on: July 01, 2006, 03:46:16 PM
how about air in G which is normally attributed (incorrectly) to bach?
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #13 on: July 03, 2006, 04:23:30 AM
Have a look here:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2147.msg18098.html#msg18098
(Easiest piano piece ever written)

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #14 on: July 03, 2006, 04:45:31 AM
or maybe his some.fall.up...

or maybe even The Skeptopotamus's Song (it's a kind of - er - soliloquy, I think...)

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Soliloquy is not only a formidable pianist (as he himself claims, yet fails to provide the name under which his "recordings" might be found), but a formidable composer as well! He has composed the world's EASIEST piece. He calls it:

"Hypocrite"

It's really easy! All you have to do is sit at the piano and talk all day about how great you are and how everyone else is retarded.

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #15 on: July 03, 2006, 05:52:29 AM
How about Arvo Part's Für Alina.  Both hands just play slow single note melodies.
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #16 on: July 03, 2006, 02:53:31 PM
Webern's thunderstorm in one note.
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #17 on: July 04, 2006, 08:34:18 PM
Steve Reich  Piano Phase for 2 pianos

The first pianist repeats 2 bars (with 12 sixtienth notes in all) on and on for ca 15 minutes
the 2nd pianist plays the same, but a little faster than the first.

Okay, it's not that easy to play this in reality  ;D
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 03:38:53 AM
Clementi Op 36 Sonatinas.
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #19 on: July 05, 2006, 09:29:47 AM
Mary had a little lamb ;D
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #20 on: July 05, 2006, 09:28:41 PM
cage 4'33"
You stole my song!
I wish my mom would sing that instead.
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #21 on: July 05, 2006, 10:01:47 PM
Mary had a little lamb ;D
How very uncomfortable for her...

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #22 on: July 06, 2006, 02:45:40 AM
cage 4'33"

agreed, I really wanted to perform this for my Master's recital, but my teacher wouldn't let me, darn it   >:(

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #23 on: July 06, 2006, 01:15:06 PM
agreed, I really wanted to perform this for my Master's recital, but my teacher wouldn't let me, darn it   >:(

Heh, did that once in front of my whole school, it was hilarious, none of them clapped, they were just sitting there silently, so I had to break the silence

Well I did that for an Arts Academy once...got accepted, seriously.. ???
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #24 on: July 06, 2006, 01:25:27 PM
Twinkly Twinkle little star  By good ol' Mozart  (suzuki modified)  THere's like 5 variations all almost identical... I'll never forget or forgive that piano teacher for what she's done to me because of that piece

Anyone know the hal leonard primer piece Air ballons and elevators?  Thoses have to win if it included Non world rallying pieces...

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #25 on: July 06, 2006, 03:14:19 PM
Heh, did that once in front of my whole school, it was hilarious, none of them clapped, they were just sitting there silently, so I had to break the silence

Well I did that for an Arts Academy once...got accepted, seriously.. ???

no way!   :o   that's hilarious !

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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #26 on: July 06, 2006, 08:16:54 PM
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As the year, decade, century and millennium all draw to a close, every arts writer invariably will succumb to the temptation to announce The List. To avoid the rush, I'll crawl out on my own critical limb a bit early to proclaim (fanfare and drum-roll, please) the greatest classical piece of the century.

The long history of classical music has evolved too patiently for a single year or even a decade to have much significance. And yet, too much has happened over the millennium for meaningful comparisons: who can say whether some anonymous monk who first dared to sing a fifth within the monody of Gregorian chant was a more daring and influential innovator than Beethoven?

So I'll focus my pretension on our century. In search of its greatest classical work, many would look to Stravinsky, not just for his astounding Rite of Spring but for an amazingly eclectic career that legitimized a melding of disparate influences into a cohesive art. Or perhaps Schoenberg for systematizing the yearning dissonance of the late 19th century into 12-tone expression. Or Stockhausen, for integrating studio electronics into traditional musical timbres and forms. Each was a visionary who pushed music to a new level and irreversibly influenced all that followed.

My candidate may not make many other lists. But its ultimate influence over the music of the future may come to tower over all of the more obvious choices. It's John Cage's 4'33" ("four minutes, thirty-three seconds").

I knew John Cage only briefly when I was an undergrad at Wesleyan University, whose music department lauded him as a guiding genius while others disparaged him as a negligible buffoon. His performances were more "happenings" than concerts, and could range from seemingly random events to a lecture about his beloved wild mushrooms. He was always happy and gentle, alive with awestruck wonder of the world, and especially fascinated by its sounds.

4'33" was Cage's favorite work. Written in 1952, it came at the exact mid-point of his 80-year life of discovery and culminated his exploration of indeterminacy, music in which some elements are carefully scripted with others left to chance. The year before, he had written his Imaginary Landscape # 4 for 24 performers, each of whom adjusted the volume or tuning of one of a dozen radios; although the dial settings were exactly prescribed, the result depended upon the frequencies and formats of local stations. 4'33" was inspired by Cage's visit to Harvard's anechoic chamber, designed to eliminate all sound; but instead of promised silence Cage was amazed and delighted to hear the pulsing of his blood and the whistling of his nerves.

Most music is trivialized by attempts to describe it. ("The melody is announced by the flutes...") That's not a problem with 4'33". Here's how one performance went: A tuxedoed performer came on stage, sat at a grand piano, opened the lid, occasionally turned some music pages but otherwise sat as quietly as possible for 4 minutes and 33 seconds, then rose, bowed and left. And that was it.

Although often described as a silent piece, 4'33" isn't silent at all. While the performer makes as little sound as possible, Cage breaks traditional boundaries by shifting attention from the stage to the audience and even beyond the concert hall. You soon become aware of a huge amount of sound, ranging from the mundane to the profound, from the expected to the surprising, from the intimate to the cosmic –shifting in seats, riffling programs to see what in the world is going on, breathing, the air conditioning, a creaking door, passing traffic, an airplane, ringing in your ears, a recaptured memory. This is a deeply personal music, which each witness creates to his/her own reactions to life. Concerts and records standardize our responses, but no two people will ever hear 4'33" the same way. It's the ultimate sing-along: the audience (and the world) becomes the performer.

Let's tackle a few obvious questions. Is this music? Sure it is - each sound has a distinct tone, duration, rhythm and timbre. Isn't it arbitrary? But so are all artistic conventions. Couldn't a 3-year old have written this piece? Perhaps. But did he? Did you?

If all this still sounds more like noise than real music, don't feel bad - you're in very distinguished company. As chronicled in Nikolas Slonimsky's perversely wonderful Lexicon of Musical Invective (Washington University, 1965), even the most comfortable and cherished staples of our current repertoire, including Brahms, Chopin, Debussy and Tchaikovsky, had been condemned by contemporary esthetes in the very same way. Even Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, now the most popular classical work of all, was damned as "odious meowing" - and not music - decades after its premiere.

The "point" of 4'33", and the appeal of most avant-garde stuff, is that unlike most music it presents an open process rather than an attempt to realize a composer's prescribed directives to achieve a specific intended result. It's an invitation, not a command.

And yet, few people genuinely like to listen to modern classical music. (And here I don't mean mainstream derivative stuff, but real cutting-edge avant-garde.) Often the concept turns out to be far more interesting than its execution - once you acknowledge the basic scheme you really don't want to have to sit through it. 4'33" is one of the very few pieces that has the opposite appeal. Its idea sounds simplistic and even stupid, but performances are fascinating, since they involve each listener so fully and intimately. And it's over before you can get bored or uncomfortable.

One more question: is this stuff really classical music? I think so. The huge variety of music of all eras that we call classical (and here I'm certainly including classic pop, folk, blues and jazz) seems to share two key traits. The first is a respect for tradition. Beyond being a wickedly keen variation on the conventions of the formal concert, 4'33" fills a crucial slot in history. Music began as an imitation of natural sounds and human voices but then became increasingly stylized. Cage brilliantly brings the process full circle, bridging the cultural distance that has developed between conventional performance and the sounds of nature where it all began.

The second hallmark is staying power. I've heard Mozart's dozen mature piano concertos dozens of times each over dozens of years, but right now I can recall only a few of their melodies. I heard the Cage piece just once (and three decades ago), but I remember it so vividly.

The ultimate wonder of 4'33" is the profundity of its simplicity. While staying within the concert hall, Cage transcends its rigid confines. He combines anarchy with sly humor. His result is universal, but his means are deeply personal. 4'33" is strikingly original, yet easily imitated. (For example, the graphic for the printed version of this column was an empty border; but upon publication it contained print-through, paper grain and other unplanned "imperfections" and so it really wasn't empty after all.)

But where can music go from here? Perhaps Cage is telling us that we've arrived at a point where everything should be possible, that it is now up to each of us to select and enjoy whatever elements of our world are the most meaningful, that concerts shouldn't erect a barrier between art and the outside world but should rekindle our partnership with nature, and that music shouldn't be an escape from reality but a tribute to the genius of mankind. Like Cage himself, 4'33" is a joyful embrace of our world and all it has to offer. 4'33" empowers us to take charge of ourselves, to trust our own instincts, to make our own judgements, to live our own lives. No other work in the history of music has expressed so much, and yet achieves its meaning with such disarmingly efficient elegance.

Let me end with a prediction and a suggestion. Here's the prediction: in future decades or centuries even Stravinsky will become an historical relic, his sound quaint and old-fashioned, while Cage will remain ever-fresh and vital. And here's the suggestion: take four minutes and thirty-three seconds from your own life and find some way to perform the piece yourself. Genius, like music, comes in so many varieties.

Thought this was intersting.  It's about 4'3"  there's some pretty funky stuff that some composers come up with.
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Re: World's Easiest Piece?
Reply #27 on: July 06, 2006, 09:13:50 PM
New candidate for world's easiest piece:  first 2 minutes of Stockhausen Klavierstück IX

Opening chord (c# f# g c') repeated 142x, beginning with ff gradually diminuendo until pppp  then again, same chord, ff 87x gradually diminuendo until pppp , then stagnant chromatic scale from c' to h', then again our chord  ff (gradually diminuendo  for the rest) 13x - pause - 21x - pause - 1x - pause - 8x - pause - 5x - pause - 2x - pause - 3x -

very frightning effect on the audience!
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