Students sweat excessively during the lesson.

[ingagroznaya]

My male students sweat excessively during the lesson. I did not have that many adult male students, so I am curious about the phenomena. It's seem to mostly affect beginners, but not limited to them only. Women never sweat. And when I am talking about sweating, I want you to understand that I am not talking some little sweat, I am talking about being soaked. Drenched. In a cool room.

[annoying_airhead]

I'm sure the poor guy is just nervous about whether or not he's impressing you with his progress.

[tompilk]

My male students sweat excessively during the lesson. I did not have that many adult male students, so I am curious about the phenomena. It's seem to mostly affect beginners, but not limited to them only. Women never sweat. And when I am talking about sweating, I want you to understand that I am not talking some little sweat, I am talking about being soaked. Drenched. In a cool room.

maybe he likes you   

[debussy symbolism]

Greetings.

I sweat a lot during my lessons and sometimes during practice, but mostly at the beginning. It is sometimes a pain, because it is harder to accurately hit the right black keys. Just keep a paper towl ready.

[sportsmonster]

if you didnt do you homework..it can also be possible.

i sweat sometimes too. when i practice, and dont get it right. and in the end, i get frustrated, and the emotional. starting to hit the piano. Things falling here and there. And after throwing a few chairs around, you might be sweating a bit

[penguinlover]

I once had a female student who had sweaty hands.  She had to have a towel in her lap at all times.  She left drops of sweat on the keys!  I was really gross, but I knew she couldn't help it.  She was quite talented too.  She called it the "sweaty hands syndrome."

[pianistimo]

soaked?  drenched?  in a cool room at the start of a piano lesson.  ingagroznya - what are u doing.  torturing them?  and u charge them $70 dollahs for this?  how do u get away with this?  u must be rather attractive for ur 37 years.  and a very good teacher.  but, what makes them sweat so fast?  so much?  do they start out with chopin etudes and move to something harder? 

are u sure the room is cool?  maybe it's cool to u and hot to them.  maybe u have to ask them if the room is cool enough and turn the a/c on more?  basically, maybe a freezing setting.  u can make up for it by dressing in winter clothing if u get cold.

[princess_moose]

Do you pour water over them or something?!

I've never heard of anyone sweat that much, but it is most probably down to nerves.

[pekko]

https://www.aocd.org/skin/dermatologic_diseases/hyperhidrosis.html

Botox will help.

[cora]

I wonder if anti-perspirant on their hands would help.

[pianistimo]

botox really helps sweating?  they'll really sweat when they see u there with a needle.

[ronatello]

I see it as a case of nerves. I'm heading to my 1st lesson next wednesday and I guaran-darn-tee that I will be sweating buckets...out of my hands! 
I'll shove some Bounty PT's in my pockets and I'll be alright. I'm excited but apprehensive at the same time. You lot, wish me luck!

[steve jones]

https://www.aocd.org/skin/dermatologic_diseases/hyperhidrosis.html

Botox will help.

To some extent. The only real chance of relief for this condition is a surgical procedure called ETS.

SJ

[teresa_b]

There is other relief than surgery. 

First, you can ask a doctor to prescribe "DrySol," which is a strong antiperspirant.

There is a unit that you can use to decrease or stop sweating for several weeks called "Drionic."

Botox can help if the above is not working.  It hurts and is expensive.

Teresa

[sophia92]

,,,,,,,

 Frankly , I am the one who have a pair of sweaty hands ........

(I really don't mind what you did say ,don't worried )

My teacher sometimes says that  my hands are too gross ..

And I am so embarrassed and ,,,,it was hurt indeed

But I just couldn't help this thing to happen ,,,,


Sweat , makes my performance worse ,,,,,....

I am ver sad about this ////









I am just a 14 years old girl ,,,,

This is my frist reply  and comment /\ /\ ''

Nice to meet you all .

[penguinlover]

You may have sweaty hands, but you are not the student I was referring too.  My student is far older than you, and has since graduated from graduate school, attended Harvard, and has a wonderful career.  I didn't mean to offend anyone, just stating an experience I had some time ago.

[quasimodo]

The sweating most likely comes form nervousness - emotional insecurity.
As you say it happens only with your male students, I would bet you are somehow attractive so instead of focusing on learning, they want to please you, consciously or not.
Now I don't have a clue on how to solve such a case, lol. Maybe there is something you could do in making those guys more comfortable in their male self  . Or the contrary ...  .
Anyway my guess is that they idealize you as a personality. I hope my post is not going to make you uncomfortable as well  .

[da jake]

Babes can make certain guys nervous.

I have a feeling this ingagroznaya woman is something of a 'hot momma'

[quasimodo]

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Da Jake, with "Hot Momma", you killed all the romantism of the thread, lol.

[pekko]

That botox thing was only a joke 

[Kassaa]

,,,,,,,

 Frankly , I am the one who have a pair of sweaty hands ........

(I really don't mind what you did say ,don't worried )

My teacher sometimes says that  my hands are too gross ..

And I am so embarrassed and ,,,,it was hurt indeed

But I just couldn't help this thing to happen ,,,,


Sweat , makes my performance worse ,,,,,....

I am ver sad about this ////









I am just a 14 years old girl ,,,,

This is my frist reply  and comment /\ /\ ''

Nice to meet you all .

Quite nice teacher you have there, saying your hands are gross. At least he or she could have said it a bit more subtle :\ . Where are you from?

[sophia92]

Quite nice teacher you have there, saying your hands are gross. At least he or she could have said it a bit more subtle :\ . Where are you from?

Nice to meet you =]

I am really bothered with my sweaty hands

I don't know why do this thing happened all the time (sweat ,sweat ...)

And this , absolutely makes a bad influence to my performance ,,,,,,

I am really concerned ////

P.S      I am from HK .



Sophia

[da jake]

Boris Berezovsky - the 1990 Tchaikovsky Competition winner, famous for his very virtuosic playing. He also sweats profusely. He once played all the Liszt Transcendental Etudes in concert; his shirt was absolutely soaked by Wilde Jagd. His sweating is so legendary that some of his fans have taken to calling him "the Whale".

Sweating doesn't seem to have a negative effect on ones playing, as the Berezovsky example proves...visually however...

[penguinlover]

My student who's hands were really sweaty played very well.  She just had to have a towel in her lap.  She was very good at drying her hands quickly, and resuming her playing.  It didn't seem to bother her at all.  Guess she just got used to it.

[freakofnature]

I have a problem with very heavy sweating, too, not only when playing piano. What helped me is an anti perspirant named 'Sweat-Off' - I've used it 3 or 4 times and I'm sweating a lot less now. Maybe this could help others with the same problem, too...

[penguinlover]

Can you use it on your hands?  Is it a spray, cream, or what?  I have never heard of it.

[freakofnature]

I'm not sure - my hands are the only part of body that's not sweating much... It's a roll-on.

Just google for 'sweat-off' - they have a website. I guess they can answer your questions there.

[pianistimo]

maybe it's worse to have the opposite problem.  pbs had a documentary about people who can't sweat because they are missing this gene that allows people's sweat glands to function properly.  something about fats going into cells but not being reabsorbed by the body.  not sure if this is a correct explaination - but maybe it's worse because it puts a huge strain on the body to get rid of this 'fat' and can cause heart problems, etc.  they now have an intravenous something to help get rid of the situation - but i don't think they can ever sweat like a normal person.

sweat basically cools people off and is a way to allow toxins to leave the body.  it sounds gross - but i think in actuality - a very necessary thing.  a very normal person is probably someone who sweats according to their body mass/type and the strain placed upon it.

i don't sweat much unless i'm under a lot of physical stress - come to think of it - and, when bicycling, surprise people by not drinking the water as much as pouring it over my back, arms, and legs when the heat gets over 90.  it immediately cools one down - and in bicycling prevents you from passing out.  think about it - not drinking water might cause someone not to sweat either - so maybe drinking more water is good, too.  i usually fill up the bottle at least once.  most cyclists take two bottles in the current weather (hot).

[ingagroznaya]

Comfort of this students was my main, if not the only concern. I do not see them learning well long term if they feel so much strain. I do not find sweating gross. I also feel such an exessive sweating is nervousness, but do not know how to put this students at ease.

[quasimodo]

Comfort of this students was my main, if not the only concern. I do not see them learning well long term if they feel so much strain. I do not find sweating gross. I also feel such an exessive sweating is nervousness, but do not know how to put this students at ease.

Dress very un-sexy  .

[ingagroznaya]

Dress very un-sexy  .

I have made this terrible mistake with young children ( 4-5 years olds ) in the past. Taught me A LOT about focus.
I already do.

[pianistimo]

hopefully they weren't like my four year old and started groping you and asking for milk. (sorry, couldn't help it)  my daughter nursed until she was three.  some children like it more than others.  it helped her go to sleep at night.

[quasimodo]

I have made this terrible mistake with young children ( 4-5 years olds ) in the past. Taught me A LOT about focus.
I already do.

Try harder, LOL.

[ingagroznaya]

Ehhh, as long as they weren't crying!  They were extremely focused, but not where I want them to be.

After that I knew - I can teach young kids. Age is not an issue. It was enlightening experience in a way. Very surprising. It was just a matter of redirecting attention.

[pianistimo]

wear a kimono with one of those panels in the front.

it's always different being a student.  you really do have to put yourself in their awed position.  never taunted or teased students myself (that i am aware of) - but after finding myself in the position of taking lessons from a rather attractive male teacher - i would say 'never wear open toed sandals.'  i was so distracted and focused on his toes. 

*they were those soft sandals - burkenstocks.  anyway - there they were - all his toes.  come to think of it - he came back from playing tennis once and was also sweaty - but didn't smell.  how is that possible?  how can someone play tennis, sweat, and not smell.  maybe it was the distance of the chair to the piano?  he always seemed to sit out of arms reach.  don't know the reason as i'm not prone to just reach over and scoot the teacher closer.

the only thing that made me slightly nervous - but only in appearances was when we would switch positions so he could show me something at the keyboard.  all of a sudden (from his way back position)  he would start leaning forward with his head (like a bull).  i knew that he would soon be heading for the bench and having experienced this several times before - started thinking of possilbe ways to alight off the bench without knocking it over.  come to think of it - we could have had somekind of football injury.  but, it never happened.  i think it is because he is from ny.   people in ny drive very fast.  they never have accidents.  he moves very fast - but never bumps me.  how is this possible?

[ingagroznaya]

Pianistimo,
I am not into male toes   .

[pianistimo]

what i meant was that i wonder if male students would also find female teacher's toes equally appealing.  the thing is - my teacher always makes sure he's not too attractive at lesson.  he didn't cut the toenails.  but, his toes were still nice.

i think there's more guys that have toe fetishes than girls.  i mean - if you polished them and really had some sexy slingbacks - they might just not be able to handle the stress. 

[ingagroznaya]

I do not always understand what are you talking about, Pianistimo... but the thing about jumping off the bench is definitely there. So why would you jump? You think I move too fast? Should I move slower?

[quasimodo]

Pianistimo, your posts are quite worrying, don't you know ?

To get back to the topic, maybe making the students perform something before a real audience would help them master their sweat-generating emotions better ?

[pianistimo]

i find it very difficult to maintain breathing when i am entering a difficult part of a work.  usually, i start gasping after realizing that i wasn't breathing - so for me, it is not sweating - but remembering to breathe. 

ingagroznya - i think that there is an element of copying of mannerisms that students take on in a lesson.  if the teacher moves fast - the students move fast - if the teacher moves slowly - the students move more slowly.  now, i think it would be interesting to combine both and just see if the student will adjust.  like when you reach for the pencil - do it slowly.  but, when you head for the bench - don't make it like a communion.

ps there is little difference between performing in front of an audience and your teacher.  i think my teacher would make me more worried.  thankfully, i don't sweat.  once, i think i almost passed out from not breathing though.

[quasimodo]

that said - i find it very difficult to maintain breathing when i am entering a difficult part of a work.  usually, i start gasping after realizing that i wasn't breathing - so for me, it is not sweating - but remembering to breathe. 

Is it a coincidence or are you referring to a silly thread I started not long ago  ?

[pianistimo]

it is coincidence.  guess that we share a common problem.  for me, i have to conciously think of breathing sometimes (in difficult spots).  when i'm aware of it, then i don't let it go so long as to pass out.  i'v gotten light headed playing for my teacher - but never have the problem at home.  nerves do different things to different people.

[ingagroznaya]

To get back to the topic, maybe making the students perform something before a real audience would help them master their sweat-generating emotions better ?

I also think it would help, but adults usually don't want to perform in front of an audience.

Some of the things you've said made me look different not only at my dress code ( kimono front panel is always an option) , but at my own behavior. Still I can not explain why a student would jump off the chair like he does - poor thing nearly hits the wall.  I guess it has something to do with a comfort zone. From what I remember, first time I wanted to demonstrate...he was spaced out and did not seems to hear my directions. I guess it would be safe to assume - the incident left him too traumatized.

I mean, just looking at the way he jumps, makes me want to jump too. To an opposite wall.

[ingagroznaya]

Whaaa... I've just noticed all that sweat advertisement!

I wonder what is being advertised in the thread where Bernhard talks about his prime interests in life. Gota be all about cooking .

[pianistimo]

maybe there's an element of fear involved.  the investment of time practicing and whether it measures up to the teachers expectations.  and, for first time students - you want to hear what the teacher will play and you don't want to act stupid - but end up acting that way because of so much to focus on at first.  then, after a few lessons you get your 'groove.' 

[kaiwin]

Well it could be the student is really nervous when he plays in front of you. Some people are not use to have their teacher looking over him telling which mistakes to correct and stuff.

if you didnt do you homework..it can also be possible.

i sweat sometimes too. when i practice, and dont get it right. and in the end, i get frustrated, and the emotional. starting to hit the piano. Things falling here and there. And after throwing a few chairs around, you might be sweating a bit Wink

mmmm.... Your parents okay with that?

[pianoplayjl]

Women mostly sweat in the palms. Sweat can be caused my nervousness, temperature/humidity, or fear. I mostly sweat from fear.

[pianoplayjl]

It's not students who sweat excessively, it is pianists. Often I find that the piano keys are wet with sweat that it is a miracle that they don't slip from the keys.

[pianomcl]

The worst is if sweat falls in your eyes during a performance! I remember I had this happen during the fugue of the Brahms Handel variations...had to squint and do my best to finish up :-p

[pianoplayjl]

I remembered a few times when there was so much sweat my nose that it itched so much I wanted to scratch my nose while in the middle of a playing in front of the teacher.