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Offline pies

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Sorabji Etudes 1-25
on: July 06, 2006, 04:08:57 AM
Which are your favorites?
I like 7 and 8 (haven't listened to Ullen's entire album yet).
These etudes are at least 1000000000000²³ times better than the OC.

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #1 on: July 06, 2006, 04:24:01 AM
These etudes are at least 1000000000000²³ times better than the OC.
they are better and more straightforward than OC, but not that much better. my favorites are nos 9 and 16. they truly are great pieces of work.

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #2 on: July 06, 2006, 08:49:40 AM
*i sense a post by alistair hinton*
If you're so sure of that, don't just SENSE one - WRITE one!

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 04:37:04 AM
Haven't heard all of them but no. 10 is absolutely amazing! It even has a quasi-melody .....

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007, 04:50:53 AM
quasi melody? what does that imply?

no 10 is the one with the arpeggios racing all over. thats perhaps not the best to listen to if you want a "generic" melody.
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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #5 on: February 15, 2007, 05:00:12 AM
quasi melody? what does that imply?

no 10 is the one with the arpeggios racing all over. thats perhaps not the best to listen to if you want a "generic" melody.

the tenutos in LH ... sometimes in the RH also ...
This guy does Sorabji all kinds of justice ....

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #6 on: February 16, 2007, 04:04:06 PM
I'm quite fond of 4, 13 and 22 but no 21 takes the cake. :D
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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #7 on: February 17, 2007, 01:39:23 AM
I cannot stand the Sorabji etudes. My teacher has tried to make me, but I refuse. He has recordings on the sorabji archives, and is mad about sorabji. But I must admit, it's just sounds awful to me. I don't understand why my teacher like it, becasue everyone here seems to be like wow virtuosity!! yet my teacher is never like that, if anything, he hates virtuosity, so it beats me to why he recorded them.

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #8 on: February 17, 2007, 01:41:43 AM
who is your teacher? he must be damn good if he has recordings on the sorabji archive.

and sorabji is not all about virtuosity. you just need to investigate it further, listen to it a few times, and begin to understand it to see the musical genius behind it. however, all that may be too much for one to take in.
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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #9 on: February 17, 2007, 01:47:08 AM
I'm not saying who my teacher is...just incase he comes on this site and realises I am on this instead of practicing haha. I no a few of the performers on it, they are professors at where I study.

I keep giving it 2nd chances, and still don't like it. I am a big fan of contempory music, but Sorabji just doesn't do anything for me.  Must just be a matter of taste

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #10 on: February 17, 2007, 02:23:28 AM
can you pm me and tell me who he is? im quite interested in knowing.
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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #11 on: February 18, 2007, 03:09:22 AM
Are there free recordings of the Sorabji Etudes at the Sorabji Archive? If not, where can I find some recordings? Thanks

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #12 on: February 18, 2007, 04:25:20 AM
Are there free recordings of the Sorabji Etudes at the Sorabji Archive? If not, where can I find some recordings? Thanks
you can listen to some samples here:

https://www.fredrikullen.com/recordings.htm

fredrik ullén is currently in the process of recording all 100 transcendental etudes. it is, indeed, a transcendental task.
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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #13 on: February 18, 2007, 12:08:40 PM
Are there free recordings of the Sorabji Etudes at the Sorabji Archive? If not, where can I find some recordings? Thanks
No, there are no free recordings of anything there - and why should there be? There are quite a few recordings around, however and, as "jre" has observed, there are samples of some of the 100 Transcendental Studies on Fredrik Ullén's website. Volumes 2 & 3 of this ongoing cycle have been recorded and should be out sometime this year. We'll see, in the meantime, if the entire 100 come out on a set of CDs recorded by Joyce Hatto...

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Re: Sorabji Etudes 1-25
Reply #14 on: February 18, 2007, 02:36:10 PM
These pieces are more interesting to me than the OC.

Are any of the shorter ones suited to speed demonry?
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