Composers of the early romantic/late classic period

[hummel]

Hi,

I've always been interested in composers who have written music (especially Piano Concertos) which unifies elements of the classical and the romantic period, such as:
(besides Beethoven and Schubert)

- Czerny
- Hummel
- Field
- Cramer
- Herz
- von Weber
(are there anymore?)

So, what do you think of them? Which are your favorite works (piano concertos) of this transition period?

In my opinion, the manner in wich the styles are combined is not the always the same:

1) either the piece makes use of several formal elements (e.g. chords, harmonies) reminescent of romantic music whereas the piece as a whole sticks to the classical form: Appassionata, Pathétique ... (microcosm: romantic; macrocosm: classic)

2) or the constituents of the music are very classical but the piece as whole exudes a very romantic/dramatic/lyrical atmosphere: Hummel Piano Concerto op. 85 & 89  (microcosm: classic; macrocosm: romantic)

[Waldszenen]

Schubert is probably the greatest of the transitional-era composers, after Beethoven. He's one of my favourite composers and has written some of the best music I've heard.

Great pity he didn't write a single concerto.

[hummel]

I agree, and it's also a pity that Schubert didn't write more large-scale piano works.

[jas]

Hi,

I've always been interested in composers who have written music (especially Piano Concertos) which unifies elements of the classical and the romantic period, such as:
(besides Beethoven and Schubert)

- Czerny
- Hummel
- Field
- Cramer
- Herz
- von Weber
(are there anymore?)

Moscheles, Pixis, Kalkbrenner and Franz Hünten were around the same time as them. They all formed the London-Viennese virtuoso "school" before Liszt, Chopin etc. came along and formed the Parisian one. Which you probably know already.

So, what do you think of them? Which are your favorite works (piano concertos) of this transition period?

In my opinion, the manner in wich the styles are combined is not the always the same:

1) either the piece makes use of several formal elements (e.g. chords, harmonies) reminescent of romantic music whereas the piece as a whole sticks to the classical form: Appassionata, Pathétique ... (microcosm: romantic; macrocosm: classic)

2) or the constituents of the music are very classical but the piece as whole exudes a very romantic/dramatic/lyrical atmosphere: Hummel Piano Concerto op. 85 & 89  (microcosm: classic; macrocosm: romantic)

I really haven't listened to enough of the music from this time (except Schubert & Beethoven) to say anything useful about it. Laziness.

Schubert is probably the greatest of the transitional-era composers, after Beethoven. He's one of my favourite composers and has written some of the best music I've heard.

Great pity he didn't write a single concerto.

I agree, I love Schubert. I think he's one of the most distinctive composers there's ever been.

[hodi]

early mendelssohn...

[thalbergmad]

I love the Concerto's from this period. The Herz Concerto's especially are sparkling little gems.

The Czerny Concerto has been recorded, but could do with another outing. I found this similar to the Herz.

Some of the Moscheles Concerto's I like, but not all.

I don't think any of the  Pixis Concerto's have been recorded, but judging by the scores, they would be along a similar line.

The greatest of the Early Romantic Concerto's was of course the Thalberg. With its songlike themes, it mimics the Chopin Concerto's , but I believe slightly pre dates them.

I have not yet listened to any Field.

Thal

[jre58591]

I love the Concerto's from this period. The Herz Concerto's especially are sparkling little gems.

The Czerny Concerto has been recorded, but could do with another outing. I found this similar to the Herz.

Some of the Moscheles Concerto's I like, but not all.

I don't think any of the  Pixis Concerto's have been recorded, but judging by the scores, they would be along a similar line.

The greatest of the Early Romantic Concerto's was of course the Thalberg. With its songlike themes, it mimics the Chopin Concerto's , but I believe slightly pre dates them.

I have not yet listened to any Field.

Thal

yeah, these early romantic piano concertos are really in need of some attention, even if it isnt so much as a recording. i give a lot of credit to hyperion for undertaking the important task of recording some of the forgotten ones. the field piano concertos are very unique in that they dont seem to have a definite structure shared between all 7. they do share many techniques shown in the concertos of his counterparts, however. what i would like to see, however, are the scores for some of these concertos, such as hummel's not-so-popular concertos and the herz piano concertos (other than nos 1,7, and . these strike me as being the most original and most concise of this period.

[klavierkonzerte]

the late classical/early romantic period is by far my favorite


dussek wrote fine sonatas and concertos

wolfl also wote some very virtuosic sonatas like the the grand sonata in c

ludwig berger wrote i think seven sonatas but only one has been recorded which i find amazing.

i think burgmuller is considered an early romantics i have heared his sonatas in f minor and really liked it.

cramer wrote some fine sonatas and very entertaining concertos and very very usfull sets of etudes.

[bernhard]

And don´t forget:

Wenzel Tomaschek (1774 – 1850), whose lyrical “Eclogues” can claim to be the first romantic pieces.

Johann Worzichek (1791 – 1825) who invented the impromptu (Schubert was much influenced by him).


Best wishes,
Bernhard.