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videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
on: July 11, 2006, 10:31:22 AM
Anyobody know if someone has done a good video-recording of the Ligeti etudes?

I wonder if Aimard can do the hardest etudes up-tempo live.

I also wonder if anyone has a videorecording of Godowsky´s Chopin study number 25/11 ?

I don´t think Libetta has recorded it yet.

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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 12:51:36 PM
i know of (and possibly have, haha) a video of volker banfeld playing all of the book 1 and a few book 2 etudes of ligeti. he is the dedicatée of a few of the etudes. also, aimard has done autumn a varsovie and der zauberlehrling live as far as i know (in carnegie hall). no idea about the godowsky etudes though.
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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #2 on: July 11, 2006, 05:01:37 PM
i know of (and possibly have, haha) a video of volker banfeld playing all of the book 1 and a few book 2 etudes of ligeti. he is the dedicatée of a few of the etudes. also, aimard has done autumn a varsovie and der zauberlehrling live as far as i know (in carnegie hall). no idea about the godowsky etudes though.

Does he play them well?

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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #3 on: July 11, 2006, 05:06:06 PM
I also wonder if anyone has a videorecording of Godowsky´s Chopin study number 25/11 ?




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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #4 on: July 11, 2006, 05:35:30 PM
Does he play them well?
this guy (volker banfeld) is probably the most emotionless person ive ever seen. but still, his video is the only video i have of the complete book 1 etudes and of the few book 2 etudes he plays. he has a great technique and makes these etudes look easy. but aimard and ullén seem to have more dominance over these pieces. they probably show much more expression also.
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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #5 on: July 11, 2006, 05:51:05 PM
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this guy (volker banfeld) is probably the most emotionless person ive ever seen. but still, his video is the only video i have of the complete book 1 etudes and of the few book 2 etudes he plays. he has a great technique and makes these etudes look easy. but aimard and ullén seem to have more dominance over these pieces. they probably show much more expression also.

Does he play even the hardest ones uptempo?

These etudes seems harder then the Godowsky Chopin studies to me.

I think most lefthanded people would agree about that.

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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #6 on: July 11, 2006, 05:54:51 PM
I wish Hamelin had recorded them or is going to recordd them. Read this:

Contributor Charles Cockey has this to say (informally, as part of an email exchange):

"I’ve not heard Hamelin do the Rzewski, regarding whom I’m in a distinct minority, it seems. I find his highly didactic intentions creating blocky overbearing pieces, albeit with sections and moments of brilliance. I’m willing to listen to MAH’s rendition, simply because I agree with you wholeheartedly as concerns his playing, period. A few years back Ligeti was in Berkeley, giving some seminars and concerts, and I heard all his then extant piano etudes played by Volker Banfield, with Ligeti (and blackboard) in attendance. Ligeti would come out after each etude and discuss and illustrate on the blackboard what it was he had in mind, and then Banfield would play the piece a second time, and we could then listen for the hidden forms Ligeti had so carefully constructed.

A few weeks later Ligeti was doing much the same in LA. My then-girlfriend, a wonderful lady, was at that time working in LA, so I drove down and spent a week or so with her and going to the Ligeti events. Mark-André Hamelin played the Études, again with Ligeti and blackboard in attendance (and I believe the premiere of one more of the at that time not completly finished set). The difference was beyond astounding. Where Banfield’s playing (and pedaling?) was mushy and indistinct, Hamelin’s was totally sharp, crisp, alive, focussed, and much much more important, totally revealing of all Ligeti’s intentions to the point that Ligeti got up from his seat not once!! Just sat and smiled and nodded, and at the end came up and shared a bow with Hamelin. I’ve been a wide-eyed more than fan of Hamelin’s from that day forth. Truly astounding and revelatory performance!! Unless you’ve heard him play these pieces, I can truthfully say that you have never heard these pieces. It’s as simple as that."

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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #7 on: July 11, 2006, 09:29:19 PM
To bad that Ligeti didn´t encourage Hamelin to record the etudes when he was still alive.

Hamelin hasn´t played any of the etudes live since then, has he?

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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #8 on: July 17, 2006, 02:40:31 AM
Volker Banfeld:
&search=ligeti

Francesco Libetta:
&mode=related&search=ligeti

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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #9 on: July 17, 2006, 03:20:40 AM
Volker Banfeld:
&search=ligeti

Francesco Libetta:
&mode=related&search=ligeti


i see that you found my videos. ill try to post the rest of the banfeld by tomorrow.
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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #10 on: July 17, 2006, 06:48:20 AM
part 3 of the banfeld ligeti has been added. part 4 is to come tomorrow.
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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #11 on: July 17, 2006, 06:18:41 PM
part 4 is uploaded. enjoy!
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Re: videorecording of the Ligeti etudes?
Reply #12 on: July 18, 2006, 04:54:45 PM
Very technical playing from volker Banfeld.

Seems like one hell of Sightreader.

Youtube is really slow today.

I wonder why?
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