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Offline bachfan87

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Motivation to Practice
on: July 14, 2006, 03:16:43 AM
Problem...I used to practice like 8 hours a day, but now that I have to work full-time, my motivation to practice has become really low.  :-\ I don't want to say that I'm drying out, and I CAN'T because I'm a piano major in college.
Any advice?

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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #1 on: July 14, 2006, 04:54:54 AM
Greetings.

Do you have to work? Is it a necessity? If not then you could drop a few work hours, but if not, then I guess it's about putting up with the work hours and finding time to practice. Hope this helps.

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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #2 on: July 14, 2006, 09:08:51 PM
Listen to Mozarts Don giovanni/ Marriage of figgaro

Seriously; That itch that you drive yourself to practice with, try and completely drop it for a few days and use that time to prepere a folder on what you want to achieve

Look through your work/scores and highlight points of weakness

Focus on taking your work forward. Even if you have not finnished your current sections-i.e. breath new light in to the piece [ don't worry about your usual practice session you can run through this a few times after you have done some serious alt practice.

My point is I get in to the trap of pollishing up one section before moving on to the next, and have to take a step back and think about the greater picture, and I have not yet mastered this one lol.

Or a couple of easyer pieces to add to your rep might give you a boost :)
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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #3 on: July 18, 2006, 02:35:16 AM
I make myself practice by doing 2 things.

1. Setting a time limit each day.  People say quantity over quality, and I agree, but for my own initiative I use quantity as a way to force myself to sit at the bench so things get done!  I, personally, would find it more frusterating to have goals, like today I will memorize 2 pages because then I'd just end up saying, "well, they're 'good enough' and I'm done."  Or I'd be anxious to do other things and resent the fact that I still need to do that and thus be distracted from trying to memorize.  Instead I say, you have 1 1/2 hours, find whatever needs the most work, and when the time is up you can go.  That's just me however.

2.  I remind myself of how many more days I have until my lesson. 
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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #4 on: July 18, 2006, 02:52:45 AM
That's an interesting approach to practicing. In my opinion, would it be not better and more effective to instead set a specific goal to achieve in each day, such as strengthen a page or even some bars of a piece?

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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #5 on: July 18, 2006, 03:51:52 AM
For most I guess it would, but I would get frusterated if I wasn't reaching my goal "fast enough."  Some would say set smaller goals then, but what if I reach them too soon then and don't practice as much as I could have if I just set a time limit?  And if I'm going to set my goals so they fill up just the right amount of time, then I might as well just set a time instead, as that takes less thinking power! ;D

It has a negative and a positive.  The negative is, as soon as my time is up, I'm off whether I'm in a middle of a bar or not ;D.  The positive is, if I finish up a page and still have 10 minutes left, I don't call it quits, but use those 10 minutes to get a head start on the next page, or to play over the learned pages instilling them further into my memory.  So it evens out.

I have become more flexible in my "times," lately, meaning that I will say x amount of time for studies, x amount of time for sight reading and ear training, and x amount of time for pieces.  I used to say x amount of time for each piece (changing the amount of time when necessary depending on the length, hardness, ect. of the piece in question) which worked really well because then the pieces that I didn't like still got practiced a good amount of time.  I paid for my more lenient method in my last exam by blanking on a piece that I avoided practicing.  This year I'm still staying more flexible by lumping my pieces into one amount of time again, but I'll make sure I don't neglect any this time! 

I keep track of it in my head, but I used to do it on paper which was a good motivater because if I didn't complete my time one day, part of the paper would stay not colored in, and that bugged me so much that I would do "over time" the next day so I could go back and color it in. 

It's because I was home schooled and my mom said I had to do 45 minutes a day for each subject.  So I crammed as much of each subject into each set of 45 minutes as I could and when my time was up, I was out of school for the day.  So I'm very used to working like this.  I look at piano the same way.  For me, anyway, it's not a hobby, it's my "job."  (I'm a full time piano student at the moment).  So if I was working I'd do x amount of hours per day, so I treat the piano the same.  Within that time, if I'm tired of memorizing, I'll work on adding in dynamics to some already fluent pieces.  Or if I want to be outside, I'll practice memorizing off the score and then going in and seeing what I retained.  And there's always ear training, sight reading (though not too much because this can distract one from important practice), and technique to work on.   

It can be dangerous because you can end up avoiding stuff, but I try to always keep my 6 pieces or whatever the number is at the same standard, meaning, yes it would be nice to play the already memorized movements of the sonata, but the 3rd movement isn't memorized yet and neither is the Liszt, or whatever.  So do I feel like working on the 3rd movement or the Liszt?  And if I get bored of these, I'll allow myself one run through of the memorized movements, ect.  Once all is memorized, then I focus on the pieces that lack technically the most, then the ones that lack musically, ect.  But I'm rambling.   This is just what works for me.  One last example.  I happen to have 30 minutes of practice left tonight and I am dog tired.  If I didn't set "times" I would easily let 30 minutes go.  But I will tack it onto tomorrow's time as tomorrow is lesson day and has a slightly less amount of practice time due to this anyway.   If it didn't, you can bet I'd be at that piano tonight regardless of how tired I was.  If I was too tired to memorize, then I'd work on the other stuff.  So it has benefits.  You just have to be careful you don't abuse it and goof off during the time you're suppost to be practicing which I have been known to do..... ;D
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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #6 on: July 18, 2006, 09:31:56 AM
People say quantity over quality

I thought it was the opposite
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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #7 on: July 18, 2006, 02:29:21 PM
Oops.  That's what I meant to say.  Thanks.
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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #8 on: July 18, 2006, 02:42:20 PM
what i would do is to fix a time, say 3 hours a day. What's difficult is to have the self-discipline to stick to it.

another motivation may be to give yourself a target to reach. other than taking the usual exams, you could set yourself imaginery targets, say, i gotta put a couple of pieces together by november, or something like that. Of course, the best way is to organise your own recital!! you would definitely have the motivation then!!

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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #9 on: July 18, 2006, 03:05:48 PM
 :)

Same thing here actually. I'm staying away from home and don't have a piano with me. But I still wanna learn new songs! I'll usually try to imagine myself playing certain songs that I'd learnt or I'll just side read from the scores I have at the moment. It'll bring that motivation back again. Oh...and listening to the tunes that I liked really helped too!

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Re: Motivation to Practice
Reply #10 on: July 21, 2006, 04:04:48 PM
Of course, the best way is to organise your own recital!! you would definitely have the motivation then!!


That's surely the best way in my view.
I was striving to get through all the little intricacies of Schumann's "Pappillons", when I suddenly had an opportunity to play it at school. For about a week I got to 2 hours solidly just on that, and the recital was a complete success!
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