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Offline persona

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Finger "angle"
on: July 19, 2006, 01:43:07 AM
I found myself playing Burgmuller's Arabesque quite "uneven" (so to speak). I mean the ABCDE part that then moves to DEFGA and so on. I sounds very easy to play, I know, but it can turn out to be a little complicated to syncronize it with the staccato chords on the left hand at high speeds.

The thing is, I started to practice just that particular movement of the hand for a few minutes, to notice that my fingers were unnecessarily tight, so I just relaxed them. Along with this, I noticed that this "half scale" sounded a lot better, or more "flowing" if I played it a little more horizontally, I mean, not pressing the keys at an angle so near to 90º, but rather 45º or so. Then I took it to the extreme to see what happened and played it with my hand wide open, with my fingers completely horizontal, pressing the keys with the whole finger and not just the tip. I know this will sound absurd to all of you, and you must probably be thinking "this guy doesn't know what he's doing", but let me tell you, it sounded pretty good.

Now, I know most passages simply can't be played like this for obvious reasons (I can't picture myself doing a hand crossing like this), but let me ask: what is, if any, the general rule regarding the angle of the fingers? Is it 90, 45, as you please, as you feel right, as sounds best or what?

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Re: Finger "angle"
Reply #1 on: July 19, 2006, 01:58:45 AM
It will depend on several factors.  Your anatomy (everyone is different), the passage you are playing, and so on. The most important rule is to keep all joints aligned (that is, do not "break" at the finger joints) so that the force can be transmitted to the key unimpeded.

Have a look at this thread for a more detailed discusssion of just this subject:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2507.msg21688.html#msg21688
(Round fingers – the role of fingers)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: Finger "angle"
Reply #2 on: July 19, 2006, 04:57:33 AM
YEE-HAW!!! I can't belive I finally got a response from bernhard himself, instead of that usual "check out what bernhard said here". Thanx for your answer man!

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Re: Finger "angle"
Reply #3 on: July 20, 2006, 03:38:04 AM
You are welcome. :)

(and watch out the blood pressure ;))
The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. (Hunter Thompson)

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Re: Finger "angle"
Reply #4 on: July 20, 2006, 07:02:08 AM
hehehe

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Re: Finger "angle"
Reply #5 on: July 27, 2006, 08:53:05 PM
I think Horowitz played that way - flattish fingers, that is, and he was almost pretty good - for an Irishman. (Maybe I read about that business of Vlad's fingers in the thread Bernhard suggested. Maybe I noticed it on TV. Maybe I imagined the whole thing. I don't know.)
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