Piano music from Brazil.

[desordre]

 Hey, boys and girls!
 I was wondering about how much do you know about brazilian piano music, and if you play some music from my country. I guess that Villa-Lobos is known world-wide, but there are a lot of other composers with  interesting and contrasting musical languages. Just to present/remember some of them:

Alberto Nepomuceno,
Alexandre Levy,
Almeida Prado,
Armando Albuquerque,
Cesar Guerra Peixe,
Cláudio Santoro,
Edino Krieger,
Francisco Mignone,
Henrique Oswald,
Marlos Nobre,
Mozart Camargo Guarnieri,
Osvaldo Lacerda,
Radamés Gnatalli.
 
 What do you think and/or know about them?
 Thanks in advance for your comments, and if you want some further information, please let me know.
 Best wishes!

[jre58591]

ive heard of many of those (besides villa-lobos), but ive only gotten around to listening to music by radamés gnattali. i really like his music. it has sorta a bossa-nova type feeling to it and can really get your feet tapping. i really like villa-lobos as well. i like the "other-worldly" feeling it gives the listener.

[jre58591]

for those of you that havent heard any gnattali, ive uploaded a few videos on youtube. hamelin is the pianist for these videos.

[desordre]

 We celebrate this year the 100th anniversary of Gnattali, that was born in my very town. My prefered piano work by him is the set of Valses (1939), but is a shame cause it is very little performed. And you're right, Mr(s). jre: he was deep involved with the Bossa Nova, as we may notice in many of his compositions.

[jre58591]

haha, im a guy. do you know, by any chance, if maneirando or vaidosa no 2 have been performed? i would like to hear more of his pieces and someday play them.

[desordre]

 Hi there!
 I'm glad to hear about your intentions about playing his music. I'm not aware of recent performances. Indeed, I'm actually surprised that there aren't too many concerts or recitals with his music this year.
 On the other hand, the good one , piano player Fernanda Canaud reissued her Gnatalli CD (that includes both pieces you mentioned) and did (as far as I know) two recitals celebrating the composer. If you're digging into these pieces (and Gnatalli in general) I must recomend the mithologycal "Retratos", a recording made back in 1964 with Jacob do Bandolim (a popular musician, one of the greatest of my country) and the composer himself directing the orchestra. Also has in the tracklist the forementioned Maneirando & Vaidosa 2. However, I did hear only once to a vinyl and never find it to buy. Very sad...
 Oh, boy! Thank you very much! The performance of Hamelin is superb, as usual. What a gift!
 Best wishes.

[pabst]

I dont know that much but particularly LOVE Villa-Lobos 1st piano concerto (they say prok 3rd is about the wakening of a city; well, then this would be wakening of a country!), Gnatalli Trio Miniatura and Guarnieri Preludes.

[desordre]

 Dear Pabst:
 Very true your comment about Villa's 1st: it's an astonishing work! What pianist do you know playing it? And if you enjoy the piano-orchestral music by him, you should listen (if you didn't yet) to his Choros 8 & 11.
 Let me ask something: are you refering to the Ponteios of Guarnieri?
 Best wishes!
 

[jre58591]

i, too, love villa-lobos's piano concertos and mômo precoce. i have cristina ortíz playing all 5 and i absolutely love them, especially, as was mentioned, the 1st. i have yet to hear any of teh bachianas brasilera though. has anyone heard them, particularly the ones for piano?

[franz_]

for those of you that havent heard any gnattali, ive uploaded a few videos on youtube. hamelin is the pianist for these videos.

I really like this music. Its like Kapustin.
You have sheet music of this composer?

[desordre]

 Dear Jre:
 Cristina Ortiz is a fabulous pianist,don't you think? I saw just another day that she won the Van Cliburn (3rd edition I guess).
 The Bachianas Brasileiras are considered by many Villa's masterwork(s). The 3rd and the 4th use the piano, although in my opinion the cello orchestra version of the later is much more caracteristic.
 Have a nice weekn!

[pabst]

Dear Pabst:
 Very true your comment about Villa's 1st: it's an astonishing work! What pianist do you know playing it? And if you enjoy the piano-orchestral music by him, you should listen (if you didn't yet) to his Choros 8 & 11.
 Let me ask something: are you refering to the Ponteios of Guarnieri?
 Best wishes!
 

I do have that Ortiz set but my fave remains a non-commercial recording of Nelson Freire in Germany. And yes I was referring to the Ponteios (which means Preludes, I'm told): is there a complete set on record?

[desordre]

 Dear Pabst:
 Freire playing this must be amazing!
 I asked you about the Preludes cause I've heard once that he had composed some preludes that were actually not part of the Ponteios.
 About the recording, I have one made by pianist Lais de Souza Brasil. It's a very good one, made in Brazil in 2001. However it's not easy to find.

[jre58591]

I really like this music. Its like Kapustin.
You have sheet music of this composer?

i have quite a few sheets. ill see if i can post some in teh next few days. if not, in a week, when i come back from my trip.

Dear Jre:
Cristina Ortiz is a fabulous pianist,don't you think? I saw just another day that she won the Van Cliburn (3rd edition I guess).
The Bachianas Brasileiras are considered by many Villa's masterwork(s). The 3rd and the 4th use the piano, although in my opinion the cello orchestra version of the later is much more caracteristic.
Have a nice weekn!

i have actually heard a part of no 4, played by nelson freire. ive wanted to hear one of teh ones for piano/orchestra. which one would you reccomommend? btw, i really like ortíz. i havent heard too much of her playing, but after hearing her villa-lobos, im convinced that shes great.

[jre58591]

ok, here is my collection of gnattali scores:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/rjs87o

does anyone have any scores to add to it, desordre maybe?

[desordre]

 Dear Jre:
 The Bachianas 3 is for piano and orchestra, do you know it?
 About the Gnatalli's scores, I have none of them in PDF. Sorry .
 By the way, have you ever seen the documentary about Freire? Absolutely wonderful!
 Best wishes.

[jre58591]

Dear Jre:
 The Bachianas 3 is for piano and orchestra, do you know it?
 About the Gnatalli's scores, I have none of them in PDF. Sorry .
 By the way, have you ever seen the documentary about Freire? Absolutely wonderful!
 Best wishes.

no, i havent heard the 3rd one. ive only heard a bit of the 4th, played by nelson freire. also, i have see that freire documentary, but i wasnt able to understand msot of it. i know spanish, but not portuguese.

[Barbosa-piano]

    I think that Edino Krieger has some strikingly peculiar pieces, especially his "Balada do Desesperado" for voice and piano. He explores a different, almost modern type of sonority.
    Alberto Nepomuceno's music is much like Brahms', I like the intimate feeling and warmth of his piano music. Folha D'album is a good piano piece.
    Francisco Mignone is another good composer. His pieces are maybe a little too "modern" for me...
    I think Carlos Gomes is noteworthy... Much of his piano music is suited for the Brazilian parlors and salons- his Polkas, more specifically. Too bad it is so hard to find a good print of his piano music. I would like to hear his "Hino da Mocidade Academica".

    Villa-Lobos is just great. He can wisely depict Brazil with his musical style.
    His piano music is very attractive. The Kankikis, Bachianas Brasileiras, Ondulating Etude, and the rest of his music is just enchanting. I particularly like his "Impressoes Seresteiras".


 
     

[desordre]

 Dear Barbosa:
 Carlos Gomes is a very forgotten composer. I guess that almost everybody in Brazil knows the first phrase of "Il Guarani" (due to a government program on the radio), but ask for one single part of the rest of his production and no one will be able to answer you. I can't remember listen to his piano music in recital even once. Thanks for including him in this discussion.
 Best wishes.

[iumonito]

ok, here is my collection of gnattali scores:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/rjs87o

does anyone have any scores to add to it, desordre maybe?

I could not open these.  In any case, are these published so that they can be bought?

Also, is what Hamelin plays in the videos Gnattali's original or a Hamelin transcription?

I am a big fan of Ernesto Nazareth, by the way.