critique my program

[andhow04]

Haydn Sonata in e minor 10 minutes
Rachmaninoff etude op.39 nos.2 and 4
Rachmaninoff Corelli variations

ITNERMISSION

Ravel jeux d'eau
Modern piece 10 minutes long and slow
Liszt legiereza
Sonnet 104
Legend


what do U think?

[ramseytheii]

Although I love the op.39 no.2 etude, I wonder if you should keep the program moving right at the beginning, rather than playing after the Hadyn such a dark, slow, meditative piece.  But then again, the order: op.39 no.4, op.39 no.2, then Corelli, wouldn't work either.
Can the Ravel fit into the first half?

Walter Ramsey

[kitty on the keys]

nice program----I might try playing the Ravel and rach for the second part. The variations take a lot of stamina and shaping and would make a nice close.

kitty

[desordre]

 Dear AndHow:
 Very interesting program. I agree with Mr. Ramsey about the Rach order. Anyway, I keep wondering why the 20th century piece is always the last one to be choosen. Have you any idea about what will you play? It can make a huge difference in the second part of your program.
 Best wishes!

[quasimodo]

No Chopin nor Bach. Quite inacceptable.

J/k 

[kitty on the keys]

So there is no Bach or Chopin. There is no Mozart tor Beethoven; nor is there any Schubert, Schumann, Mendelssohn, or Brahms. That is the beauty of our literature, we have so much to choose, why stick to the standards all the time---boring. I like his program---the Haydn is one of my favorites.

Kitty

[verywellmister]

by haydn e minor, do you mean hob.xvi:34?

[nanabush]

AAhh you play the op 39 #4!! How long did it take you to learn that?  I rarely hear of anyone playing that... 

[franz_]

Very nice programm, love the diversity and the pieces, but I would totaly change the order.
My suggestion:

Haydn Sonata
Legiereza
Sonnet
Ravel Jeux d'eau

INTERMISSION

Modern Piece
Rachmaninoff Etudes
Corelli variations
Legend


I really LOVE the corelli variatons, quite difficult isn't it?
How long is your programm and where will you play it?
I wish you all the luck you need!

[andhow04]

Very nice programm, love the diversity and the pieces, but I would totaly change the order.
My suggestion:

Haydn Sonata
Legiereza
Sonnet
Ravel Jeux d'eau

INTERMISSION

Modern Piece
Rachmaninoff Etudes
Corelli variations
Legend


I really LOVE the corelli variatons, quite difficult isn't it?
How long is your programm and where will you play it?
I wish you all the luck you need!

About op 39 no 4 i bought a long tmie ago rachmaninoff window in time, and he plays that etude on there, and i just knew right away I had to learn that piece. but i didn't start until last winter. i just love that teude which with its jingling harmonies and modal refrain sounds like a walk through Ye Olde English Faire.

the programs total 75 or 80 minutes i think 'lest i added wrong.
in many ways i like yru new order but i wasn't sure if i should split up music by the same composer, so i put all the lisztp ieces together. is it bad to do soemthing like that? by that i mean split up pieces by ione composer.

[pianochild]

Very nice program, the 10 minute modern piece does not appeal to me, like the first part a lot! I like the mixture but i think a debussy piece would be nice, and instead of a rachmaninoff etude, a prelude, but that is my opinion.

For the modern piece, do you mean from 1900, onwards or modern as in 1990, onwards. As a Joplin rag would be good, but it depends what you need. As far as 10 minutes goes, i think a joplin rag and prehaps a boogie or blues, but i know that is not slow, but slow performances can sometimes bore an audience, + i dont know if you want to keep it classical, romantic theme? What about satie gymnopodie no1, if  know its easy, but always a winner!

[franz_]

Very nice program, the 10 minute modern piece does not appeal to me, like the first part a lot! I like the mixture but i think a debussy piece would be nice, and instead of a rachmaninoff etude, a prelude, but that is my opinion.

For the modern piece, do you mean from 1900, onwards or modern as in 1990, onwards. As a Joplin rag would be good, but it depends what you need. As far as 10 minutes goes, i think a joplin rag and prehaps a boogie or blues, but i know that is not slow, but slow performances can sometimes bore an audience, + i dont know if you want to keep it classical, romantic theme? What about satie gymnopodie no1, if  know its easy, but always a winner!

1. Why are you proposing new repertoire, this guy has very difficult pieces on which he worked very hard, and in my eyes it is a very nice and diverse program.
2. what are you talking about rags, boogies and blues when he's gonna perform a haydn sonata?
3. @ andhow04: I don't think it disturb the program, people like to hear different things and people who are not very 'classical' are often quickly bored. So when they don't like Liszt f.e. they will be bored more then 30min with that Liszt. When you split those things up people here different and new things all the time.
Just an idea...

[nanabush]

For a 10 minute modern piece, it has some slow parts, and some faster sections... 'I leap through the sky with stars" by Alexina Louie... she's a Canadian composer, and this piece is very modern, and around 10-12 minutes... a canadian piece would add a pretty strange twist 

What about a piece that's a bit less than 10 minutes... say like 7 or something...  From ginastera the Danzas Argentinas or the Danzas Criollas have a mix of beautiful slow pieces and some dynamic, faster pieces.  I know your looking for just a slow piece, but a 10 minute modern slow piece isn't the easiest thing to find  . 

The only other suggestion i'd give you would be 'In memorium to the victims of Chernobyl' by Kuzmenko... it's a slow piece, and quite long... but I hate it  .  If you can find any form of recording of it [i forget where i heard it] then give it a listen, it did nothing for me.

edit:  I was just lookin through another thread talkin about Kapustin... His jazz preludes are incredible.  There are a variety of slow and fast ones, and the sheet music I'm almost positive is on Gamingforce... They are difficult, but I'm sure with the rep. you have now you could play them.  Also check amazon for some samples, trust me their awesome.

[franz_]

I understood he allready had a modern piece, but that just nobody knows so he just called it 'modern piece'

[pianochild]

1. Why are you proposing new repertoire, this guy has very difficult pieces on which he worked very hard, and in my eyes it is a very nice and diverse program.
2. what are you talking about rags, boogies and blues when he's gonna perform a haydn sonata?
3. @ andhow04: I don't think it disturb the program, people like to hear different things and people who are not very 'classical' are often quickly bored. So when they don't like Liszt f.e. they will be bored more then 30min with that Liszt. When you split those things up people here different and new things all the time.
Just an idea...

I dont know if you realised but the title is critique my progrem, so i shared my thoughts, what would be the point in making the post if he didnt want to hear others thoughts?

And for the rag, he said modern piece, and it did not say a specific piece, so i wondered weather to know, it has nothing to do with the haydn, when its the other side of the interval.

And where did it say that the pieces were already learned, the question was what are your thoughts on the program i have chose. If they were learned, what would be the point of this post?

[andhow04]

I dont know if you realised but the title is critique my progrem, so i shared my thoughts, what would be the point in making the post if he didnt want to hear others thoughts?

And for the rag, he said modern piece, and it did not say a specific piece, so i wondered weather to know, it has nothing to do with the haydn, when its the other side of the interval.

And where did it say that the pieces were already learned, the question was what are your thoughts on the program i have chose. If they were learned, what would be the point of this post?

o sorry, i should hav ementioned that i already picked out the modern piece but nobody has heard of it so i just said what it is like.  i already learned em but i wasnt sure if it was the best order. also i thought maybe some substitions could be made like if piece didnt work another one of a simliar or mayeb even opposite character would work.
i agree it hink the rachmaninoff part is the weakest order. hm!

[franz_]

o sorry, i should hav ementioned that i already picked out the modern piece but nobody has heard of it so i just said what it is like.  i already learned em but i wasnt sure if it was the best order. also i thought maybe some substitions could be made like if piece didnt work another one of a simliar or mayeb even opposite character would work.
i agree it hink the rachmaninoff part is the weakest order. hm!

I was right 

[pianistimo]

somehow combining haydn and liszt seems out of character...both rach and liszt being on the heavier side.  i think you need a baroque piece to start out, then the haydn and then whatever.  rach and liszt in the same program seems to vie for attention - but that's just my personal feeling. 

this would be my choice:

gluck arr. by scambati (sp?)
haydn
beethoven sonata

intermission

rachmaninov
(all your choices)
stravinsky's petrushka (arranged by somebody)

or (next program):

scarlatti
mozart
some opera transcript (verdi arr by liszt - maybe rigoletto paraphrase)

intermission

rest of liszt
modern piece - of french tradition

[pianistimo]

with rach - i could see a shchedrin prelude or two

or

sleeping beauty arr. by pletnev  (tis beautiful)

another idea is

danse russian (from the nutcracker) transcribed by nicola economu

[quasimodo]

andhow, are you french-speaking?