Pramberger

[susan_wong]

Any one heard of the brand Pramberger? I just saw one at the piano store today. That sales said it is a name of the designer for Steinway. I am not sure about that. And it is 1000 sth more than Yamaha (price i mean). He showed me that Pramberger has a lot more benefits than Yamaha. It seems like there is not good thing about yamaha except you can sell it more easily once you don't want it. The sales said Pramberger is a new brand; therefore, not many people trust it. But it has features of petrof + pleyel. The black keys are made of wood. He said if you want to buy a Yamaha with the same qualities as this Pramberger it would probably cost around 15000 sth (a U5). But this new brand only cost 10000 CDN.

Thank you very much.

[Axtremus]

Yes, I've heard of Pramberger. Do you actually have a question or an opinion about Pramberger here?

[mwccheng]

I know it is made in Korea. I've tried the sound and touch, which is pretty good. Yamaha has the advantage of better re-sale value due to its brand name. But unless you choose top-end models such as U3 or U5, other Yamaha models aren't so good in sound and touch, especially for more advanced players.   

[susan_wong]

Yes I just wanna heard some comments about Pramberger THX

And what other european pianos would you guys recommend within the range of 9000 CDN???

[mwccheng]

In my couutry, $9000 CDN can buy mid- models of brands like Plyel (French-made with sweet sound), Petrof (sound is good if you don't mind stiff touch), Sauter (very good but my exceed your budget).

Recently, my friend bought the Bohemia Model 125 (cost around $6000 CDN), which has good sound and touch and seems a good recommendation. Anyway, my preference goes to European ones than Yamaha (assuming same budget) as their sound is more "human", not so "mechanical".   

[arensky]

Pramberger is manufactured in Korea by Samick. Mr. Pramberger worked for Steinway for many years, he was one of their principal designers. I have heard good things about them, but have not played one .

[susan_wong]

 
Will you choose Pramberger or Petrof P125G1?
besides you can sell a better price for PEtrof than Pramberger because petrof is more well-known


 

[gkatele]

Joseph Pramberger did indeed work for Steinway for a while. I am not sure of his capacity there. Rumor is that he had a falling out with the Steinway folks and took his expertise to Korea, where he joined up with Young Chang to create the Pramberger series of grand pianos.

Last year, when Young Chang was undergoing its financial difficulties, it was going to be bought out by Samick. However, the Korean government forbade the sale (monopolies and all that) and forced Young Chang to re-organize. As part of the deal, the Pramberger name (and name only) was retained by Samick. The design is still owned by Young Chang. Offhand, I don't recall the name that Young Chang (now owned by Hyundai) is using for the Joseph Pramberger designed piano.

So, when one talks about Pramberger, one has to ask, "Which One?" There are two - the Young Chang Pramberger, and the Samick Pramberger. They are completely different pianos with the same name.

[hoj76]

I have a Samick "pramberger" piano, but have tried a Young Chang-pramberger, and now this is on way to our house - a much better piano!