which was harder to learn?

[rockitman31]

Fantasie Impromptu  or Revolutionary Etude?

I'm starting Chopin's Nocturne 37-2  and want to also tackle a speedier piece at the same time. 

[nanabush]

Revolutionary etude... running notes in the left hand, while FI is running notes in the right hand.  My left hand is weaker, hence I found the etude harder 

[rocketman]

From one Rocketman to another, Revolutionary is a thrill to play. Unfortunately, I've been dealing with chronic shoulder bursitis in my left shoulder and have had to take it easy this summer with 10-12.

[bench warmer]

Agree, Op10-12 takes more effort to gain control and stamina in the LH  than FI does for the RH.

[kaiwin]

Played both and Revolutionary, I feel FI pretty simple to me. Doesn't take long too learn and make it musical if you use Goood practice techniques. Lots of people mindlessly play FI over and over again and think that would make it right. It doesn't.

Revolutionary would take more work if you want to get it uptempo. Right now I'm working on that to reach Horowitz speed. And that requires a lot of patience and slow work. Especially focus on balance of the fingers and arms.

Trust me it works.

[quantum]

For me FI took much longer than Revolutionary.  I learned FI first, and it took a long while to where I could get a satisfactory performance.  Revolutionary seemed to take less time. 

I am right handed by the way.

[nanabush]

Maybe because you played it first.... maybe you were a better pianist overall when you had played 10/12...

[kaiwin]

Nana might be right, but the question is did you spend time to speed 10 12 up to tempo?
Not many people do and just stop playing it after they hit 120 beats per minute.
144 is pretty fast so it should take longer to reach this speed.
FI is nowhere near that fast compared to 10 12.


For a revolution on the right you can do 25 11
 
"Winter Wind"


Viva la revolution

[Waldszenen]

Revolutionary. The FI fits the hand.

[maxy]

to learn?

I say FI.  I spent quite a long while struggling with the 4 on 3.

[franz_]

Revolutionary, for sure. I learned both, and FI I play often on concerts, 10/12 is very riscy for me to do.

[canardroti]

I don't think FI is as hard as  any of Chopin's etude actually.
The Revolutionary is harder , it's very hard ( for me ) to play it above 120 per quarter note.

[kaiwin]

Think of it this way... Have you seen a child prodigy play the Revolutionary Etude or FI the most?

Definitely FI.

[rockitman31]

Thanks all for your input.

I kind of figured Revolutionary would be tougher having fingered through both. 

Might as well get started on FI and get it under my belt.   

Gees, the Chopin Nocturne 37-2  is  tougher than I thought too.   The right hand descending fifths are not a piece of cake.   Gonna practice HS for a while till I get it right.

[burstroman]

It was a long time ago when I learned both, but FI was more difficult with its polyrhythms.  I'm left handed, and so the Rev. etude was just a slight bit "easier".  I wish more pianists would respect the dynamics.

[chromatickler]

Think of it this way... Have you seen a child prodigy play the Revolutionary Etude or FI the most?

Definitely FI.

10/12 has a lot of octave chords which most 7 year olds cannot reach. FI has one passage with octaves and they are sufficiently sl*w to be played below the keybed with preparation.

[dnephi]

Played both and Revolutionary, I feel FI pretty simple to me. Doesn't take long too learn and make it musical if you use Goood practice techniques. Lots of people mindlessly play FI over and over again and think that would make it right. It doesn't.

Revolutionary would take more work if you want to get it uptempo. Right now I'm working on that to reach Horowitz speed. And that requires a lot of patience and slow work. Especially focus on balance of the fingers and arms.

Trust me it works.

[sarcasm] Horowitz is da 2:43.  I landed 2:20.  He zlowed down on certain parts...  [/sarcasm]  Horowitz speed isn't that hard, at least now for me.  To those working on it, it gets so natural that I use it to get warmed up.  Great piece, never done FI.