A question about a part of Beethoven's 'Pathetique', second movement...

[elevatormonkey]

There's a little flourish symbol thingy in bar 21 that I have no idea how to play. It has '4321' - the fingers used to play it, presumably - and a 'natural' sign, under it. Could anyone who's familiar with the piece tell me which notes to play and the reasoning behind the notation?

Thanks.

[faustsaccomplice]

It is played b-c-d and ends on the written c (all the notes are natural).

Play it on the beat, but not with too much emphasis, because you need to save that for the high g, which resolves down to the e-flat at bar 22.  Also, don't get "caught" on the c at the beginning of m21, it needs to flow to the b-flat, and up to the g.

[elevatormonkey]

ah, brilliant. thanks.

[nicco]

I think theres a misunderstanding here. The notes that the "flourish" symbol means to be played starts as written on F, then goes G F E F, and is to be played with 4321 and upwards to Ab and C. Then comes the part faust pointed out.

[faustsaccomplice]

I think theres a misunderstanding here. The notes that the "flourish" symbol means to be played starts as written on F, then goes G F E F, and is to be played with 4321 and upwards to Ab and C. Then comes the part faust pointed out.

I'm not sure what the misunderstanding is...  we are talking about measure 21. 

I know you didn't mean to say so, but it should be clarified that the turn in m 20 is played after the f is held for a bit more than an eighth beat.

[nicco]

I'm not sure what the misunderstanding is...  we are talking about measure 21. 

I know you didn't mean to say so, but it should be clarified that the turn in m 20 is played after the f is held for a bit more than an eighth beat.

The part you described is measure 22 

[faustsaccomplice]

The part you described is measure 22 

AH! My fault, my fault.  You are right!  Sorry I got on my high horse there.  I am the fool here!