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ramseytheii
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Haydn and Hoboken
on: August 06, 2006, 07:39:42 PM
Can someone explain the way the Hoboken system works in cataloguing Haydn's works? For instance in the e minor sonata, it is Hob. XVI:34. What are the two sets of numbers for? Is the catalogue chronological? Are all his works, including symphonies, cantatas, etc., under this system?
thanks,
Walter Ramsey
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amanfang
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Re: Haydn and Hoboken
Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 12:12:30 AM
I'm going to answer without verifying what I "think:"
His works are catalogued by genre - the Roman Numerals. All of the sonatas will have the XVI number before the other. The second number I believe is chronological, though in the case of the sonatas, there are 62 sonatas rather than 52 (or something like that). For a list of Hob. number categories, see the following:
https://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/haydnj_works.html
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desordre
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Re: Haydn and Hoboken
Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 03:00:40 AM
Hi there!
Mr. Amanfang is right but one thing: the second number is not chronological. In a general way, as higher the number, as later the work, but there are many exceptions what leads one to be careful. One example: the Symphony 37 is one of the very first.
Best wishes!
PS: thanks for the link.
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