overrated PIECES of all time

[cziffra]

ever hear a lot of hype over something, rush out and buy it, and then listen dumbstruck to some bizarre monstrosity?

[eddie92099]

The Bible,
Ed

[TwinkleFingers]

I think he was talking musically...

[eddie92099]

Notice the lack of denial,
Ed

[meiting]

most of the times that's cuz the playing sucked.

[cziffra]

well to start an actual response to my thread, i offer ravel's bolero.  i had heard so many people talk wonderfully about it and it then came as a dreadful shock when it was the same thing for 15 minutes.  i had only stopped having an argument with someone about the unoriginality of the band Tool for playing the same thing for ridiculous amounts of time when i heard this classical piece commiting the same sin.  i was shocked.

[liszmaninopin]

Well, I might vouch for Claire de Lune being overrated by non-musical audiences.  At family gatherings, everybody fawns over how beautiful it is, but to tell you the truth, I've never really liked it that much.  Come to think of it, I think alot of Debussy is overrated.

[comme_le_vent]

its good to see tool mentioned in this forum, they are a really good band, i think one could learn a little from aenima, eulogy, or possibly schism? overrated music - radiohead is severely overrated imo, liszt sonata in b minor is overrated, le quatre ages is better by far, sjt peppers is overrated, the white album and MMT are underrated, the 1st 2 mvts of the moonight sonata are overrated, the 3rd is extremely underrated, rach 3 is overrated , rach 1 and 2 are underrated(in this forum), bach's goldberg variations are overrated,  
alkan's festin d'aesop is a far more appealing set of variations to me.

my opinions are definitive, noone can argue with these undisputed facts of life

[eddie92099]

my opinions are definitive, noone can argue with these undisputed facts of life

Snore,
Ed

[cziffra]

its good to see tool mentioned in this forum, they are a really good band

but i mentioned them with a negative comment attached.  

rach 3 is overrated

well, it's a good piece,i love it, but it IS overrated, i'll admit

[liszmaninopin]

I wouldn't call the Rach 3 overrated, but I do think that it is overplayed.  It may be louder and faster than number 2, but really, I think few pieces are as touching as some passages in number 2.

[dinosaurtales]

Most modern movies are like that.  Overhyped so that if you actually go see the thing you wonder why you bothered?

Also, the SuperBowl.

[Axtremus]

Dvorak's "New World Symphony."
[Edit: I meant the above to be both OVERRATED and OVERPLAYED.]

[The Tempest]

Vivaldi's Four Seasons (his other violin concerti are just as interesting)

Handel's Hallelujah from Messiah

Beethoven's Fur Elise and the first movement of his Moonlight Sonata.

[cziffra]

how could we forget!?  pachalbel's canon!

you know he wrote hundreds of other pieces?  i think even a thousand.

[bernhard]

It seems to me that this thread is mixing up two things: overrated pieces, and overplayed pieces. I am not sure they are the same. Fro instance, I would consider Fur Elise overrated, but the Moonlight (first movement) overplayed (Vivaldi the four seasons also seems to me more a case of overplayed than overrated).

[L.K.]

I think Mozarts Rondo alla Turca is way overrated. It is  great piece but Mozart has written much better rondos than that famous one. And it's overplayed too.

[Chitch]

I think the Fantasie-Impromptu's overplayed.

[steveolongfingers]

I think Im going to get beat up for saying this, but I think Beethoven's HammerKlaveir is overrated, sure its the hardest piano compostion he wrote, but it sucks, its theme, is quite boring.  For something that hard to play i expected more.........

[meiting]

I think Im going to get beat up for saying this, but I think Beethoven's HammerKlaveir is overrated, sure its the hardest piano compostion he wrote, but it sucks, its theme, is quite boring.  For something that hard to play i expected more.........

oh man.. yeah. you are gonna get beaten up by me.. It's such a glorious piece of work. The theme is not boring at all, and what he is able to do.. damn. nobody has ever attempted such a thing before him, and it's not THAT hard.

The fugue's one of the most interesting compositions I've ever heard/played/seen. The slow movement's serious as it gets, and the scherzo is just crazy. I've completely fallen in love with is and am now looking for oppurtunities to perform it as much as possible. It's also one of my warm-up pieces.

[eddie92099]

Dvorak's "New World Symphony."

I strongly disagree.

I think Im going to get beat up for saying this, but I think Beethoven's HammerKlaveir is overrated, sure its the hardest piano compostion he wrote, but it sucks, its theme, is quite boring.  For something that hard to play i expected more.........

I strongly agree,
Ed

[Jemmers]

I'd say Moonlight sonata 1st movement, Clair de lune (debussy wrote so many more good pieces), Fantaisie Impromptu (nice, but really quite shallow, with INSANELY long slow portions), Canon in D (hell yeah)

[meiting]

I strongly agree,
Ed

And I strongly disagree. Again.

[steveolongfingers]

I'd say Moonlight sonata 1st movement, Clair de lune (debussy wrote so many more good pieces), Fantaisie Impromptu (nice, but really quite shallow, with INSANELY long slow portions), Canon in D (hell yeah)

Those are more overplayed than overrated

[Chitch]

I agree, but not in the case of the Fantasie-Impromptu. It's overplayed and overrated

[cziffra]

well, if we're talking overplayed, we must include the thaikovsky concerto- it's good but, god, why every single pianist under the sun learns it is beyond me.

[eddie92099]

I presume you are talking about the first concerto - in which case I completely agree. I never want to learn it ,
Ed

[cziffra]

he wrote more than one!!!???
jees- i never would have guessed-  you'd assume the only reason it's played so much is because it's all he had- i'd be very interested to hear one of the others...how many were there?

[eddie92099]

Three. The second one is an awful lot of G major and I don't know the third particularly well,
Ed

[The Tempest]

The third wasn't even finished; I think it has either one or two movements.

[liszmaninopin]

I have to go along with the Tchaikovsky First being overrated.  I tried learning it a while back, and eventually got bored with it, and stopped.  Rachmaninoff's Concertos are so much better, in my opinion.  I'd swear, at some points especially in the first movement of the Second Conerto I just have to fall silent.  For me, there's no comparison between the Tchaikovsky First and the Rach Second.

[Noah]

The third wasn't even finished; I think it has either one or two movements.

The third concerto has three movements and was finished.

[eddie92099]

Maybe it was wishful thinking,
Ed

[annrach3]

The Bible,
Ed

Well said. Bravo!

[krenske]

Perhaps the beethoven concertos are overrated... compared to mozart

debussy might be overrated except if you're in a good mood in a parisian garden with the mists of the seine...

Tchaik 1 has some good bits.. but isnt it a bit like patchwork?

Mahler [compared to Bruckner]??

[liszmaninopin]

I agree with your Beethoven concertos statement to a point, the sonatas are definitely more interesting in my opinion.

[e60m5]

The Tchaikovsky B flat is certainly NOT overrated.

Overplayed, but NOT overrated. It remains the archetype of its genre.

[dinosaurtales]

I agree with your Beethoven concertos statement to a point, the sonatas are definitely more interesting in my opinion.

I'm with you!