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Topic: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach Minuet (Read 23095 times)

piano121

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Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach Minuet

on: August 17, 2006, 01:15:17 AM

This is my firts recording post here. I´m glad to post and share my atempts with you fellow pianists. It´s being very helpfull to listen to other people´s recordings and coments.

I have studied piano in the past during fours years. Didn´t achieve much progress on that ocasion. Even though I studied very hard, got stuck on a bad method. The pieces I learnt better and got up to performance level where all studied by myself, away of the teacher. I didn´t develop any good technique at all, after four years studiyng. I realised that after showing my repertoire to another teachers. I got really sad, when I was told I got no technique.

Well, after a 9 years pause, here I am studiyng piano back again. This time I managed to get my self an excellent teacher.

It has been 10 months since I started, and I´m very happy with the results until now. And I´m studiyng some very pleasant repertoire, including this sonata.

I´m very fond of Mozart´s music, I´m trying to focus in clarity and evenness. Coments are most well come.

Other movements to come!

Piano121

mozart sonata k311_I jun_2006.mp3 (2110.92 kB - downloaded 817 times.)

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach Minuet

Reply #1 on: August 26, 2006, 09:05:41 PM

no replies untill now...

so, i´m offering my interpretation on this wonderfull piece of Bach, in exchange for some coments!

have fun!

Bach_minuet in G.mp3 (1079.39 kB - downloaded 368 times.)

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach´s piece

Reply #2 on: August 26, 2006, 10:26:59 PM

Hi piano, isn't it frustrating to to go to all that trouble and have no responses!

I listened to the Mozart, and it is beautiful! You have a lovely light touch, nice phrasing, and your clarity and evenness are excellent. If you want any suggestions, I would say soften the LH accompaniment a little bit, and maybe vary the dynamics even more--maybe also a tiny bit more legato in the more lyric sections.

It is lovely as it is, my comments are personal preferences.
Keep up the great work, and please post the other movements!
Teresa

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach´s piece

Reply #3 on: August 27, 2006, 06:58:18 AM

The Mozart was very good,true to the character of the music. Infact Mozart is good to listen to in the morning, puts you in a good mood.

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach´s piece

Reply #4 on: August 28, 2006, 09:08:15 PM

hello Teresa,
thanks for your kind coments. It´s very nice, coming from a person who plays mozart so well. You concerto in fabulous. I´ll keep your sugestions in mind for a future recording. I´m just sorry it wasn´t recorded in a grand, because it´s much easier to make the LH softer, and acentuate the dinamics even more. Anyway, I don´t think the piano on mozart´s time was much better than the up right I own

. Thanks and hope to see more recordings from you!

Hi Zheer,
I was aiming for it, be true to the character of the music. I´m glad you like it, thanks for listening!

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach´s piece

Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 01:13:31 PM

piano,

I know how frustrating it can be to have a piano or a recording that doesn't quite reflect all your efforts at dynamics, etc. Your playing is beautiful. And you are a great example of how there are no "bad" pianos, only bad pianists! You made your upright sound wonderful.

I have somewhere a recording of my Mozart K453, and I will post it if I manage to locate it!

Meanwhile, keep posting yours! Love 'em.

Teresa

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Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 02:51:44 PM

wow i loved the mozart!! its so clear and neat and spikey and crisp. Ive been playing this but it just sounds like mush compared to your recording!

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach´s piece

Reply #7 on: August 30, 2006, 02:37:32 AM

It sounds like this was recorded on a period instrument.

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Reply #8 on: August 30, 2006, 02:36:46 PM

Quote from: teresa_b on August 29, 2006, 01:13:31 PM

Your playing is beautiful. And you are a great example of how there are no "bad" pianos, only bad pianists! You made your upright sound wonderful.

Quote from: letters on August 29, 2006, 02:51:44 PM

wow i loved the mozart!! its so clear and neat and spikey and crisp.

Hey! thanks, thanks, thanks! I put a lot of efort on this piece! it´s realy rewarding to know that you guys liked it!

letters, I would be glad to listen to your recordings!

Quote from: cherub_rocker1979 on August 30, 2006, 02:37:32 AM

It sounds like this was recorded on a period instrument.

Indded, I agree with that. It´s a Schnider up right, and is only 12 years old, but seems to be 212 years old!

hahaha... wait till I post some Bach stuff!

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach´s piece

Reply #9 on: August 30, 2006, 03:08:42 PM

Very enjoyable. You play very well.

I found the Bach a little uneven at tempo, but still a very nice rendition.

Congrats.

Looking forward to more recordings.

By the way the recording itself is amazing.

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Reply #10 on: August 30, 2006, 08:02:30 PM

Indeed it has something fortepiano-like. I enjoy listening to your interpretation very much. It's real mozartish, frolic and joyful and you're in the music with your heart. Very likeable!

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Reply #11 on: August 31, 2006, 01:54:16 PM

Hi pianowolfi and relefebvr!

Thanks a lot for your nice coments about the Mozart!

It makes me very happy! I´m working on the second and third movments. I will shure post it as soon as I get a decent performance.

About the minuet... you are right. I know I was a little lazy on that piece. When I did this I was sort of testing the microphone set, so I got to sight read some easy pieces. Something suposed to be a "just for fun" recording... haha... no doubt there are some tempo inconsistencies... also I got the wrong values for notes on the last measure of the first part... but what the hell... when I listened to the recording, I thought it was ok... so decided to keep it.

Anyway, I must try to re record it in the future, along with other easy but beautifull little pieces, then, I promise I´ll be much more careful!

Best
piano121

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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach´s piece

Reply #12 on: August 31, 2006, 08:32:21 PM

Hey piano121,

Nice playing! I actually wanted to reply after you just uploaded your recording, but I didn't do so because I didn't have anything constructive to say. Since I'm not such an expert as some of the other posters here, I was afraid I just wasn't able to judge your playing. The sound of your instrument also confused me a bit, since it was so different from most other pianos. Now, after the responses from the other members, I realize that the reason I couldn't give you any tips, was just because your recording was a great recording!

So, I really just should've posted some compliments, instead of doubting my own judgment skills...

I also plan on doing a Mozart sonata for my next recording here. I hope I can make it sound a bit like your recording (but on a different instrument...).

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Reply #13 on: September 01, 2006, 10:36:48 AM

Quote from: piano121 on August 30, 2006, 02:36:46 PM

letters, I would be glad to listen to your recordings!

well i am currently deciding what i want to record at the moment... it wont be mozart, i think it might be a little bach prelude (not a 48) its only about a minute long! but i like playing it so il post that.

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Reply #14 on: September 02, 2006, 01:09:40 PM

Hi Letters, Kartman!

thanks a lot for your coments. It´s beeing a pleasure playing this sonata, I´m glad you guys like it. Do post your stuff, it´s aways cool seeing other people´s interpretation!

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Reply #15 on: September 04, 2006, 01:15:32 AM

Unless you somehow have a different version of the sheet music than I do, check those two LH chords in the third-to-last measure of the A section. Other than that, really liked it! Looking forward to the next two movements.

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Reply #16 on: September 04, 2006, 08:28:11 PM

Yes," somehow" I do have a diferent version

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I know what you are talking about. I know booth versions. They have pretty diferent notes on those chords. Anyway I choose to do the Urtext version of the score, Revision free and faitfull to the original manuscript. That´s the version you listened. There are other versions with lots of revisions, (I have Germer) with those chords, changed to match the similar passage in the last section. I have no clue why editors like doing it. sometimes they find latter copies of pieces with diferent notes or wathever... So it´s up to the interpreter to choose what he think is more apropriate, acording to his taste and knowledge. (in my case acording to my teacher´s advice!

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Reply #17 on: September 05, 2006, 12:04:55 PM

Very good! It makes me happy for some reason

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Reply #19 on: October 14, 2006, 01:16:13 AM

Outstanding job on both of these pieces. If you put out a CD I'll buy it.

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Reply #20 on: November 02, 2009, 07:27:16 PM

This is such a wonderful piece, how come no one is commenting it?

Poor bach, i pity you...

Anyway, i'm still learning it, but i love it anyway

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Reply #21 on: February 07, 2010, 06:50:47 PM

i like this song very much

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Reply #22 on: February 16, 2010, 01:37:04 PM

very nice touch in mozart! i love it's second movement, come on and upload it!!
best,
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Re: Mozart Sonata in D K311 - Allegro con spirito + Bach Minuet

Reply #23 on: February 18, 2010, 12:53:47 AM

for someone like me who does not play the piano, but loves to listen to classical piano and who has a son who devours playing the piano and who has played this sonata before..... I must say this very well played. My ears enjoyed it so much!

and the Bach was as wonderful,,,!!!

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