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Offline invictious

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The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
on: August 24, 2006, 08:10:42 AM
PianoStreet is a place with lots of gifted people, professional pianists, good pianists, and pianists, all here to give or ask for advice.

Lets make a wikipedia of a few awesome pianists in PS, so they won't be 'underground pianists' anymore.

I'd like to start off with Thracozaag, I have a few recordings of his pieces, and I must say, Thracozaag and Chopin were definitely made for each other, if you haven't heard his Chopin, you must ask him to upload his Chopin sonatas and etudes, it's just so intense and breathtaking, it's so unique, I have never heard anyone play Chopin like that, it stands out a lot, it's great!

So let's start off with Thracozaag.

A few Recordings: https://www.classiccat.net/performers/attwood_koji.htm

Bio: https://www.astralartisticservices.org/artists/attwood.html
https://www.webconcerthall.com/interview/attwood.htm
https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/index.php?action=RisingStar&artist=koji

Righty oh!
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

Goal:
Prokofiev - Toccata

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Offline prometheus

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #1 on: August 24, 2006, 09:52:55 AM
I don't really think underground pianists have a place in wikipedia. And even if they have they don't have priority. There are still a lot of classical pieces without description. Maybe you want to start there instead.

But of course you want to promote these pianists. The problem is that wikipedia is not the place for promotion. It is the place where you want to add information.
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Offline pianistimo

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #2 on: August 24, 2006, 10:16:49 AM
koji probably doesn't even need promoting anymore.  i mean, if barishnikov's dance troupe has used him - he definately speaks for himself.  he must be very fluid and poetic to be able to do that.  wish i could have seen that.

koji's recordings speak for themselves, too. 

basically, as i see it, pianists just need a fund where people drop money occasionally and they can come and claim it.  you know, like the begging ads of the van cliburn winners.  of course, koji has a rich girlfriend, now - so that solved that problem.  of course, he's probably not doing so badly himself -performing and all.  dont' know if he teaches.  if he lived in my area - i'd be begging for lessons.  even one lesson from someone like that is really worth the money.

maybe koji can make us a dvd on some aspect of performance (possibly nerves?) and how to intensify that 'meditative' process before playing - to minimize mistakes and maximize performance.  for me, it's been an understanding of preparedness, but there is also the element of 'oh, no, there's 3,000 people out there.'  for some people that might be overwhelmingly bad news.  they might wish to suddenly cancel.  but, what do you do when the show must go on and suddenly you are having second thoughts.  do big performers get nervous?  is the first piece always a sort of warm up for these folks or do they warm up hours in advance and come in with warm hands?  i tried to do this for my juries (practice a bit ahead of time).  does it wear out your hands and your mind too soon.  what is the right balance of 'getting warmed up' vs. overpracticing before a performance?

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 09:26:06 AM
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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #4 on: September 16, 2006, 09:57:05 AM
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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #5 on: September 16, 2006, 10:12:44 AM
Since when is koji an underground pianist!!? Read his bio you dumb****! His achievements and credentials are above ground and quite real. And who are you to decide what belongs in Wikipedia and what doesn't. Smacks of fascism. Get off pianoostreet and go to dumb**** fascisto commie street where you belong. Don't talk about what you don't know about, ass****.

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That was quiet dumb to.
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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 06:07:07 PM
That was a joke. I didn't like it. But that is irrelevant. Maybe other people did like it.
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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #7 on: September 16, 2006, 07:04:06 PM

Lets make a wikipedia of a few awesome pianists in PS, so they won't be 'underground pianists' anymore.


Oh, you coined the term!

Sorry prometheus I flew off the handle but you still shouldn't decide who can go into wikipedia and who can't, that's the whole point of Wikipedia, it's open source.  Heh I am less angry this morning, I will remove the **** language. I didn't read all of invictious' post, my bad  :-[

Invictious,  koji is a prominent young concert artist and deserves promotion, he is up and coming right now but he is far from an "underground" pianist, whatever that might be. Hell, it's probably me!  ;D

Perhaps the best thing to do is create the entry, and see who would liked to be named in it. There is a precedent for this...   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_Demon_Community



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Offline prometheus

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #8 on: September 16, 2006, 07:25:01 PM
Wikipedia is pretty clear about what should be in an encyclopedia and what not.


You mean your comment wasn't a joke? If so that is kind of... well...
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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #9 on: September 17, 2006, 01:43:35 AM
Well I am not promoting him like an advert.

He really does deserve a place, he'd be a major pianist already.

Listen to his chopin etude and sonata...
I fainted.
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

Goal:
Prokofiev - Toccata

>LISTEN<

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #10 on: September 17, 2006, 09:36:03 AM
Well I am not promoting him like an advert.

He really does deserve a place, he'd be a major pianist already.

Listen to his chopin etude and sonata...
I fainted.

Also Marik would deserve a place imo.

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #11 on: September 17, 2006, 09:51:45 AM
I thnk this project is just screaming out for the inclusion of Pianitisimo.  No other authoress on PianoForum has been so prolific.  SOmeone should organize all her postings into one coherent integral philosophy (good luck), and get that wikipedia going.  I enthusiatically siuggest ThalbergMad for this job.  Lets get the ball rolling!


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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #12 on: September 17, 2006, 05:26:40 PM
SOmeone should organize all her postings into one coherent integral philosophy (good luck), and get that wikipedia going.  I enthusiatically siuggest ThalbergMad for this job.  Lets get the ball rolling!


Walter Ramsey


It is the word "coherent" that would make this task impossible.

Thanks for suggesting me, but i would rather be a deckhand on a submarine.

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #13 on: September 17, 2006, 07:39:11 PM
i do not wish to be in wikipedia.  i am simply requoting piano teachers about music and God in the bible.  if people have the bible in one hand and their music in the other...i don't think Christ will overlook them in the ressurrection.  in fact, i may make this request known to my husband if i die before he does (to bury me this way).  wikipedia can do nothing for your salvation.

competition has it's place.  usually when one is younger and motivated by it.  by now, i could care less.  does it look like i care.  i mean - if someone were to say 'hey, there's a competition which has no age limit and does not use the word amateur' - i would be right on it.  but, where are those?  i don't wish to be categorized as an amateur at this late stage.  it's do or die.  i'm going to make it or die trying.  but, the competition is now with myself.

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #14 on: September 17, 2006, 09:51:06 PM
i do not wish to be in wikipedia. 

Too late, i am gonna put you in.

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #15 on: September 17, 2006, 10:36:05 PM
pleeeaaase.  you are worse than a little big brother.  if you do anything defamitory i will - hmm.  i will  - i will do something terrible.

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #16 on: September 17, 2006, 11:06:01 PM
pleeeaaase.  you are worse than a little big brother.  if you do anything defamitory i will - hmm.  i will  - i will do something terrible.

Yeah Thal, she will call the earlking for sure. WHOOOOOOOOOO!Scary!!!
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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #17 on: September 17, 2006, 11:26:00 PM
the erlking?  hmm.  i thought thal was the erkling.  (just kidding).  i hope he's just jesting.  really, it scares me to think that my name might be used somewhere that i don't want it.  please tell me you are joking.  wikipedia wouldn't even let you.  so there.  you big bugger. 

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #18 on: September 18, 2006, 05:56:46 PM
wikipedia wouldn't even let you.  so there.  you big bugger. 

Hmm, you think so eh.

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Re: The grand Piano Street project for Wikipedia.
Reply #19 on: September 18, 2006, 09:36:31 PM
tplease tell me you are joking.  wikipedia wouldn't even let you.  so there.  you big bugger. 

Hmm, you think so eh.

Thal

Heh, you would be surprised at what gets on to wikipedia. Why, only the other day I found an entry for daSDC.
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