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Offline jcabraham

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Bernhard/Chang Methods Applied to Other Instruments?
on: September 05, 2006, 08:52:22 PM
I recently took up the lute, playing with a very good teacher here in Cambridge, Mass.  I was happily surprised to find that I received a lot of the same advice from him about how to practice as Bernhard has been giving.  Has anyone here tried Bernhard's and Chang's techniques (hands separate practice, short sections, 7x20 rule, memorization, etc.) to other instruments?

Jim

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Re: Bernhard/Chang Methods Applied to Other Instruments?
Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 09:34:20 PM
I have always applied these types of modular strategies to everything I do in life, not just learning to play instruments.

These kinds of strategies are extremely popular in the world of mathematics and physics which is where Chang actually learned them.  They can be very effective if applied correctly.

I should mention also though, that the modular method isn't necessarily the best approach for everyone.  I think different people learn things differently.  Some people aren't as logically minded as others.  I'm speaking in terms of a mathematical sense of logic here.  So those people lose the big picture and get lost in the modules.  For them, the modular method can be quite perplexing and seemingly chaotic.

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Re: Bernhard/Chang Methods Applied to Other Instruments?
Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 05:38:55 PM
Has anyone here tried Bernhard's and Chang's techniques (hands separate practice, short sections, 7x20 rule, memorization, etc.) to other instruments?

Jim

Yes.  I do this with my vocal practice as well and it really cuts down on time as near as I can figure.


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Re: Bernhard/Chang Methods Applied to Other Instruments?
Reply #3 on: September 07, 2006, 12:42:49 AM
Yes, I have applied bernhard´s and Chang´s methods (and a few others as well) to recorder playing and teaching with superlative results. Incidentally they also work in non musical fields (e.g. martial arts and juggling). :D

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Re: Bernhard/Chang Methods Applied to Other Instruments?
Reply #4 on: September 07, 2006, 07:49:17 PM
Yes, I have applied bernhard´s and Chang´s methods (and a few others as well) to recorder playing and teaching with superlative results. Incidentally they also work in non musical fields (e.g. martial arts and juggling). :D

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As I began doing a martial art today, and I'm pretty familiar your and Chang's methods, I would be glad to hear something general about the pricinciples behind the methods. Like limiting information (HS, 7x20) and building an own understanding from solving problems (Not from Hanon). I'm sure you can come up with more.

And leucippus, do you know where find some kind of general information on modular strategies?
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