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drexo

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I really like this piece and I want to learn it, but I'm not that advanced in playing the Piano yet, so I don't know if I'm ready for it. From the look of the sheet music, the piece isn't that hard... But that's only the look of it.

I'd like some opinions about this piece. What passages in the piece did you had a struggle with? And in wich grade would you rate this piece?

Thanks in advance!

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dnephi

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #1 on: September 27, 2006, 08:07:23 PM

Looks extremely messy to me

. Have you seen a video of it? Cziffra's video is on Youtube. Then you might be able to adequately judge its difficulty. Although he is deceptively calm.

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drexo

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #2 on: September 27, 2006, 08:13:30 PM

Quote from: dnephi on September 27, 2006, 08:07:23 PM

Looks extremely messy to me . Have you seen a video of it? Cziffra's video is on Youtube. Then you might be able to adequately judge its difficulty. Although he is deceptively calm.

I didn't saw Cziffra playing the Military Polonaise yet!?... Aren't you mistaking with the "Heroic" Polonaise (Polonaise Op. 53) ?

I mean this Polonaise:

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dnephi

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #3 on: September 27, 2006, 08:22:42 PM

Quote from: drexo on September 27, 2006, 08:13:30 PM

I didn't saw Cziffra playing the Military Polonaise yet!?... Aren't you mistaking with the "Heroic" Polonaise (Polonaise Op. 53) ?

I mean this Polonaise:

Oh lol sorry. Yea, it seems quite easy to take off the page. I don't know your level, but I'm really sorry for thinking the A-flat Polonaise

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #4 on: September 27, 2006, 08:49:15 PM

Quote from: drexo on September 27, 2006, 07:40:51 PM

I really like this piece and I want to learn it, but I'm not that advanced in playing the Piano yet, so I don't know if I'm ready for it. From the look of the sheet music, the piece isn't that hard... But that's only the look of it.

I'd like some opinions about this piece. What passages in the piece did you had a struggle with? And in wich grade would you rate this piece?

Thanks in advance!

IMHO, it's not too hard. You do need a bit of endurance as the whole piece is playing chords, and you may tire easily if you aren't relaxed. However the chords fit the hand nicely so they aren't too awkward to play. One or two chords may require your hand to stretch a 9th or so. I haven't played it in ages, but found it rather easy to learn. It's also quite repetitive so that always helps in learning.

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netzow

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #5 on: September 27, 2006, 09:12:04 PM

I believe that it is a grade 7 piece, according to that collection of graded pieces. (The link is around the forum somewhere.) I havn't played this piece (I've only fooled with the first page.) and can confirm that you will need big hands. I can do a 10th with out to much trouble and I was having big problems trying to get the reach on some of the chords apart from that It really wasn't that hard. I would not recommend learning this piece based on the way the music "looks" looks can be decieving.

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drexo

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #6 on: September 28, 2006, 04:55:28 PM

Thanks for the replies!

I'm lucky that I have quite big hands, I can reach a 12th if I want to. Also, instead of playing scales (wich is my worst technical ability), I'm quite good in playing chords. Those are the main reasons why I want to learn this piece.

netzow: you're right with that, I shouldn't learning a piece based on what the sheet music looks like!

Any comment about this piece is appreciated!

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brewtality

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #7 on: October 04, 2006, 10:47:43 AM

You know, this pieces is deceptively difficult. Of course you can learn it quickly and easily to a reasonable standard. But imo the piece only sounds good when you play it fast (3'30"ish) and with brio. If it's played properly, it sounds even more smashing and patriotic than the heroic. But you have to achieve all this without banging.

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pianistimo

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Re: Chopin's "Military" Polonaise

Reply #8 on: October 04, 2006, 10:57:48 AM

agreed. i think when people hear 'military' they automatically assume loud. as i hear it now, much faster, and lighter. second beat accented - and not so much first. almost as if one or two beats are the most important and everything inbetween is fast filler. those precise 'da da's' have to be exactly in time. everything else is fair game for any sort of rubato or speeding up. (even more precise on the 'da, da ,da,da') perhaps think of an automatic?

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