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Offline soliloquy

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Fractalization vs. Formula Composition
on: October 02, 2006, 06:21:03 AM
Could somebody possibly give a somewhat in-depth explanation on the difference between Fractalized and Formalized composition techniques; I use the term "Formula Composition" not in the broad term that could possibly be understood as any Algorithmic music, but in the serialist form utilized by Stockhausen.  Does formula composition tend to restrict less of the piece's variables EG pitch, duration, dynamics and density due to the base parameters being determinate?  Because I have been able to find almost no reference material on these two schools of composition, and from the little I have found they sound identical, with the exception of the indeterminacy factor in the base formula of fractalized music, but I assume there are more differences, albeit possibly subtle?

Offline Derek

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Re: Fractalization vs. Formula Composition
Reply #1 on: December 12, 2006, 07:05:04 PM
The two words are spelled differently.

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Re: Fractalization vs. Formula Composition
Reply #2 on: December 22, 2006, 07:47:03 PM
Go study your mathematics and you will find your answer. This will be accompanied by some computer programming as well.

Now my question is why do you want to know? I myself think it's all crap. It's not music. Even if it were music who's the composer? The person sitting in his underwear at the computer or the computer? Composed by Dell Poweredge 400 SN:38667362854675834

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Re: Fractalization vs. Formula Composition
Reply #3 on: January 18, 2007, 11:15:09 PM
Go study your mathematics and you will find your answer. This will be accompanied by some computer programming as well.

Now my question is why do you want to know? I myself think it's all crap. It's not music. Even if it were music who's the composer? The person sitting in his underwear at the computer or the computer? Composed by Dell Poweredge 400 SN:38667362854675834


Yeah... opposite of helpful.  Studying mathematics won't really make much of a difference, seeing as how I'm asking for the base formulai for the two stochastic forms of composition; whether or not I can determine the eccintricity of an ellipsoid isn't going to help me find the formulai, now will it?  I take it you don't know either, eh?  Thanks; you've really shed some light.

Why would I want to know?  Because I enjoy studying composition in all of its forms, whether or not I think they are the best way of creating music.  I'm glad you dislike stochastic music, but that doesn't really answer my question either.  Also, a lot of people would disagree with you as to whether or not it is "music".  Would you say the works of Xenakis, Schoenberg, Berg, Boulez etc are not music?  If so, what would you call them?  "Organized sound"?  Oops, that's the definition of music.



PS- just came on here to say I found the information in a theory book I got for Christmas.
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