I've been away a while......this has probably been asked before....(Beethoven)

[jbmajor]

What do you consider his most wicked sounding sonata?  A lady played a movement from one a long time ago in my music class and I have no idea which it could be....if you're thinking Appassionata's 1st movement, then no that would be too tame in comparison. 
In this piece there were many contrasts between pp and FF, with FF being mostly allegro as far as speed goes. 

Any suggestions/opinions I'd like to hear what's out there....thanks in advance. 

[phil13]

To me, the 1st mvt. of Pathetique is very wicked-sounding, and fits your criteria.

Phil

[pianistimo]

wicked or stormy?  the tempest stirs up the dirt. 

diabelli variations?  i don't think beethoven necessarily tried to be 'wicked.'  i think he may have gotten carried away with atonality in the grosse fuge.  noone understood it.  i think most people would say that was his most wicked piece - but perhaps being totally deaf and having had family members that drove him crazy - he had good right to just let go of tonality as he had previously clung to it.

hmm.  the op. 10 #3 is pretty interesting.

[jbmajor]

Thanks for the insight and suggestions

[zheer]

What do you consider his most wicked sounding sonata?  Any suggestions/opinions I'd like to hear what's out there....thanks in advance. 

  Op 111 the first MVT, i remember hearing this sonata through the walls as a child at secondary school. Anyway this lady would during luch time play on the grand piano in the music class room, i would ask her to let me in so i could listen and watch. Now this lady was old slightly fat, almost blind completly blind, had a bold patch and was very quietly spoken, anyway she told me this was the last sonata Beethoven wrote and he had fun writting it, i can safely say she played it better than Richter, pollinie, schnabel, the Lot. SO WICKED SOUNDING.