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Offline sophia92

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Debussy
on: October 13, 2006, 11:09:12 AM
OMG!!!! :(

For Debussy 's versions , I am really get crazy about them !!! :-[
It is exactly diffcult to UNDERSTAND what he's writing / talking about , and no doubt that it 's also hard to performce his versions then  :'(

AND now, could anyone help me to better understand or get closer to Debussy ?

THANKS A LOT .

Offline invictious

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Re: Debussy
Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 02:00:40 PM
impressionism

look up on that
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Re: Debussy
Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 05:19:01 PM
I really like some of Debussy's works a lot.   Most of the popular pieces that probably aren't considered to be impressionistic, like Clair de Lune, The Girl with Flaxen Hair, and a few other choice pieces.

But when it comes to the bulk of Debussy's works I'm not impressed, no pun intended.  Some of his pieces just sound to me like some kid playing around on the piano who has no clue of what to do.  I guess I'm just not into impressionism.  :-\

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Re: Debussy
Reply #3 on: October 14, 2006, 04:07:48 AM
You just have to analyze the harmonic structure of his works to understand it. It's just less ... normal ... more advanced harmonies you aren't used to see.

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Re: Debussy
Reply #4 on: October 19, 2006, 02:00:25 AM
I really like some of Debussy's works a lot. Most of the popular pieces that probably aren't considered to be impressionistic, like Clair de Lune, The Girl with Flaxen Hair, and a few other choice pieces.

But when it comes to the bulk of Debussy's works I'm not impressed, no pun intended. Some of his pieces just sound to me like some kid playing around on the piano who has no clue of what to do. I guess I'm just not into impressionism. :-\

Yup! The one I 'm practising, is just like a kid who is rushing on the piano = =''

GROSSSSSSSS!!  :(

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Re: Debussy
Reply #5 on: October 19, 2006, 05:59:09 AM
N00bs.

All of you. n00bs.
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Re: Debussy
Reply #6 on: October 19, 2006, 06:46:55 AM
I really like some of Debussy's works a lot.   Most of the popular pieces that probably aren't considered to be impressionistic, like Clair de Lune, The Girl with Flaxen Hair, and a few other choice pieces.

But when it comes to the bulk of Debussy's works I'm not impressed, no pun intended.  Some of his pieces just sound to me like some kid playing around on the piano who has no clue of what to do.  I guess I'm just not into impressionism.  :-\

Greetings.

I don't think that Debussy's, or otherwise anone's works deserve to have to succumb to your impressions, even if the piece should be titled as "impressionistic."

I happen to love Debussy's later works and find a great deal of art into them. Let us remind ourselves that Debussy's later works could not possibly be classified as "without a clue," because he must have a clue if he composed earlier work that you enjoy.

On a slightly off topic, I too somewhat dislike that we should classify music, whether impressionism, romanticism, baroque, etc. Music isn't just a file that you can label and store; it is a live art.

Best.

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Re: Debussy
Reply #7 on: October 19, 2006, 08:36:05 AM
What is Debussy versions?
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Re: Debussy
Reply #8 on: October 19, 2006, 09:19:39 AM
Let us remind ourselves that Debussy's later works could not possibly be classified as "without a clue," because he must have a clue if he composed earlier work that you enjoy.

Don't take things so seriously.  I wasn't saying that Debussy had no clue.  I was simply describing how I perceive some of his music. It sounds to me like a kid playing on a piano who doesn't have a clue what he's doing.  That's my personal description of what the music sounds like to me.  That's not the same thing as saying that Debussy didn't have a clue.  I'm sure he was a very intelligent composer.  I'm just not into the style of music that he was composing.  Like thierry13 suggested, I could probably cultivate an ear for it with a better understanding of what he was trying to achieve.  But until then, it just sounds to me like a kid playing around on the piano who has no real clue of what to do.  I'm sure that's my fault for not having really listened to enough of it.

Music grows on me.  If I bought a lot of Debussy's music on CD's and just played them every night I'm sure that I would start to get a handle on what he's doing.  I'd probably end up liking it actually.  But right now, it just doesn't do anything for me.

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Re: Debussy
Reply #9 on: October 19, 2006, 09:01:22 PM

AND now, could anyone help me to better understand or get closer to Debussy ?

I love Debussy's piano music; "The Sunken Cathedral" is one of my favorites.

Alfred publishes a collection called, Debussy: An Introduction to His Piano Music, by Margery Halford.  It has some information about the Impressionistic and Symbolist influences on his music, and about performing the works. I've been working from this one.

Paul Jacobs has an interesting book called Images.  It focuses on Debussy's Images, but talks about all of his piano works, and cites specific influences on specific pieces.  Jacobs said that Debussy was not influenced by the Impressionists as much as by the Symbolists.  He cites Edgar Allen Poe as a big influence, saying that poe focused his attention on shadowy motivations of the subconsious rather than their actions and outward appearances.  Debussy's music isn't meant to mimic the beautiful Impressionistic paintings but point toward more abstract ideas beneath the images, which was the goal of the Symbolists.  Paul Jacobs has also recorded a few CDs of Debussy's music.  I'm sure they're very "scholarly" performances, though I personally like his works performed with a lighter touch.

Anyway, the book is a good insight into Debussy and his music.  I got it through a University inter-library loan.

Also, try this link:
https://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/music/debussy.html

Joseph
The artist does nothing that others deem beautiful, but rather only what to him is a necessity.  Arnold Schoenberg, Theory of Harmony

Offline sophia92

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Re: Debussy
Reply #10 on: October 22, 2006, 06:38:10 AM
Still , it is EXTEMELY hard to understand what he 's really talking about in some (maybe most) of his work, unless to buy the introducion of Debussy's works .

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Re: Debussy
Reply #11 on: October 25, 2006, 03:36:33 AM
 ;) I agree about leucippus's idea. Some Debussy works just too expressive
   and very hard to "understand" . I guess i am more enjoy listening to
   Debussy's music that play it myself . Right now i just hope that i can
   success in my study .Bye Bye cccccclaiiiiir ddeee luneeeee......................
 
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