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Offline dnephi

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A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
on: October 31, 2006, 03:45:53 PM
Well, I had been experimenting with different programs.  This one had the idea (and title...)
"A Study in Thematic Transformation"
I don't know any of these pieces, but don't be mean ;).
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The program would be the following:

Bach-Sorabji "Fantasia Chromatica e Fuga" ~(11 minutes) (D Minor)

Liszt   "Sonata in B Minor" (~30-33) (B Minor to B Major)

Intermission

Mussorgsky-Tchernov "Night on Bald Mountain" (~10) (B Minor to D Major)

Brahms "Intermezzo in A", Op. 118 No. 2 (A Major) (~6)

Liszt "Mazeppa", (D Minor to D Major) (~6-7)

This ends up being about 1h10 minutes of music, and an interesting journey, tonally, musically, and emotionally. 

I think the final rolled chord in the Brahms is just the perfect set-up for the Liszt, and even more appropriate is the similarity of the Brahms 3-note motive in comparison with Liszt's motives throughout the main melody, etc.  The order of the pieces were chosen by tonality, contrast, etc. 

What do you think?
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Offline ramseytheii

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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 05:01:32 PM
Well, I had been experimenting with different programs.  This one had the idea (and title...)
"A Study in Thematic Transformation"
I don't know any of these pieces, but don't be mean ;).
:D

The program would be the following:

Bach-Sorabji "Fantasia Chromatica e Fuga" ~(11 minutes) (D Minor)

Liszt   "Sonata in B Minor" (~30-33) (B Minor to B Major)

Intermission

Mussorgsky-Tchernov "Night on Bald Mountain" (~10) (B Minor to D Major)

Brahms "Intermezzo in A", Op. 118 No. 2 (A Major) (~6)

Liszt "Mazeppa", (D Minor to D Major) (~6-7)

This ends up being about 1h10 minutes of music, and an interesting journey, tonally, musically, and emotionally. 

I think the final rolled chord in the Brahms is just the perfect set-up for the Liszt, and even more appropriate is the similarity of the Brahms 3-note motive in comparison with Liszt's motives throughout the main melody, etc.  The order of the pieces were chosen by tonality, contrast, etc. 

What do you think?


I think it's very interesting.  Though one doesn't generally want a program to be too/i] bound together.  I feel the second half is vastly outweighed by the first, and you should add more pieces probably in between the Mussorgsky and the Brahms.  Perhaps some more Brahms, or some Medtner pieces.
The Bach-Sorabji in my mind is only interesting in a private and domestic sense, and shouldn't be played in public, because he omits the original fugue. 

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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 06:24:49 PM
Very interesting program. I agree with ramsey, the second half doesn't compare much with the first half, albeit being very unique in its own sense.

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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 08:17:51 PM
You can't have anything after the Liszt Sonata.

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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 11:49:40 PM
You can't have anything after the Liszt Sonata.

You can have sex, if the perfornace makes enough of an impression on your female audience.

This would, however, be classed as an encore.
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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #5 on: November 05, 2006, 10:20:06 AM
Yes, that's right. Reverve the second half for the Liszt sonata only. Then, for the first part I would suggest the following order: Bach-Sorabj, Brahms, Mussorsky, Liszt-Mazeppa (but Mussorsky and Liszt-M could be inverted, I guess).

It's a great Program, the only piece I am not sure about is the Brahms. Personally I would either play at least 3 Brahms pieces (for instance op. 117 or 119) or an entirely different piece, something classical that shows an entirely different set of skill, such as a Mozart fantasy, Beethoven variation, or Schubert-Wanderer fantasy.
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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #6 on: December 04, 2006, 07:07:12 PM
What do you think of this?

Bach BWV 816 French Suite in G (Complete)

Beethoven Sonata Op. 81a in E-flat "Lebewohl"

Brahms "Intermezzo in A", Op. 118 No. 2 (A Major) (~6)

Liszt "Mazeppa", (D Minor to D Major) (~6-7)

***Intermission***

Liszt "Reminiscences de Robert le Diable" (B Minor) (Don't know how long... I guess ~10?)

Liszt "Sonate in B Minor." B minor to B Major. ~30


Encores:
MacDowell "Hexentanz"
MacDowell "March Wind"
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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #7 on: December 04, 2006, 09:35:40 PM
You can have sex, if the perfornace makes enough of an impression on your female audience.

This would, however, be classed as an encore.
LOL, best reply ever :D .

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Re: A Hypothetical Yet Interesting Concert Program
Reply #8 on: December 05, 2006, 12:49:32 PM
LOL, best reply ever :D .
Actually, I found offensive and unhelpful,

Best wishes :p.

Daniel.
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