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Offline eddie92099

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Underplayed concerti
on: January 30, 2004, 12:47:18 PM
There have been so many piano concertos written, but why is it that only a few of them become staples of the repertoire (for example, the list of accepted concertos at many international piano competitions is incredible limited)? Which concertos do you think should be played more, recorded more, and generally known more?

My suggestions:
Khatchaturian
Britten
Barber
Moszkowski
Rautavaara's First

Ed

Offline steinwaymodeld

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #1 on: January 31, 2004, 01:52:39 AM
add one

Alexander Dreyshock Concerto
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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #2 on: January 31, 2004, 02:08:07 AM
The Rawsthorne concerti !
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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #3 on: January 31, 2004, 04:22:31 AM
Bortkiewicz- concerto no 1
Saint-saens -  2, 4 and 5
Medtner - especially no 2
Henselt
Alkan - concerti da camera
Paderewski - the 1st movement is genius
Macdowell - 1 and 2
Scharwenka - esp. no. 4
Sauer - no 1
Tchaikovsky- No 2
Rachmaninov - no 1

thats for starters
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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #4 on: January 31, 2004, 04:33:44 AM
Mendelssohn No. 1 (Concerto Di Agasse)
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Offline zhiliang

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #5 on: January 31, 2004, 04:36:10 AM
Shostakovich Piano Concerto No. 2
Ravel Piano Concerto in G Major
Busoni Piano Concerto Op.39 K247
Anton Rubinstein Piano Concerto No. 4
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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #6 on: January 31, 2004, 04:39:58 AM
i agree with zhiliang but i just add the mendelssonhssss concerto
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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #7 on: January 31, 2004, 05:13:06 PM
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Shostakovich Piano Concerto No. 2
Ravel Piano Concerto in G Major
Busoni Piano Concerto Op.39 K247


I would not call the Shostakovich or the Ravel underplayed, and the Busoni is only rarely done because it is so impractical!
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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #8 on: January 31, 2004, 08:53:30 PM
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Bortkiewicz- concerto no 1
Saint-saens -  2, 4 and 5
Medtner - especially no 2
Henselt
Alkan - concerti da camera
Paderewski - the 1st movement is genius
Macdowell - 1 and 2
Scharwenka - esp. no. 4
Sauer - no 1
Tchaikovsky- No 2
Rachmaninov - no 1

thats for starters


 Glad to see someone else know about the Henselt concerto (it's VERY difficult, though).  I would also add:

Scriabin
Marx
Mendelssohn number TWO
Weber Conzertstucke
Bartok 2 and 3
Thaik number TWO

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Offline bernhard

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #9 on: January 31, 2004, 09:52:38 PM
Underplayed, underrated, and possibly unknown is Vittorio Rieti's Harpsichord Concert (sounds good on the piano as well). Wonderful Tarantella.

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Offline schnabels_grandson

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #10 on: February 01, 2004, 02:40:52 AM
How about the Medtner 2?  It blows me away how unpopular it is.  
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Offline dgk88

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #11 on: February 03, 2004, 02:05:01 PM
I'd have to say:

SCHUMANN A minor lol jk
seriously though
Rach-1, 4
Ravel-left  hand
Tchaikovsky- 2,3
Copeland- concerto for piano and orchestra

Offline anda

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #12 on: February 03, 2004, 04:45:54 PM
i don't agree on mendelssohn g major or saint-saens 2,5 or ravel g major- they're actually overplayed here. i agree on khatchaturian - i've been trying to play it for about three years, but it's awfully difficult for orchestras.

i add on your list khatchaturian the rhapsody for piano and orchestra, ireland, dvorak, prokofiev 2nd and 4th (especially 4th - what knid of a left hand do you need for that???) and lipatti concertino.

Offline eddie92099

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #13 on: February 03, 2004, 09:57:14 PM
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prokofiev 2nd


Prokofiev's Second Concerto is my favourite piece of music but I certainly would not say it is underplayed anymore. Rather, the Third Concerto is overplayed! Here in London the Second is performed at the very least once a season,
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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #14 on: February 05, 2004, 03:46:55 PM
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I would not call the Shostakovich or the Ravel underplayed, and the Busoni is only rarely done because it is so impractical!
Ed


When my teacher was working on her master's in Holland her teacher asked if she would learn the second piano part to the Busoni. She said she worked her tail end off to get it done. Well, she finally got it worked out and went and played it with him. The teacher said "Thank you. I am going to play this piece with a mediocre orchestra and I wanted to know how it felt". Needless to say my teacher didn't stay too long.

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Offline eddie92099

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #15 on: February 05, 2004, 09:00:10 PM
Well yes! The second piano part is big,
Ed

Offline Beet9

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Re: Underplayed concerti
Reply #16 on: February 09, 2004, 04:43:40 PM
Why does no one mention John Field's concerto's??  They are particularly beautiful, especially the 5th.  And no one ever plays them.  And I can't find the score for it anywhere.

Also, I would agree that Mendelssohn's second is underplayed.  I like it almost as much as the first.

What about the Haydn in DM? Or the Bach concertos?
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