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Offline steinway43

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Misprints in Three Movements From Petrouchka?
on: November 22, 2006, 08:39:00 AM
I was once told many years ago by a teacher that there were a few misprints in the score. I also got the weird impression from him that these were only handed down to certain pianists. I left the school before ever learning the piece and forgot all about that conversation.

After recently hearing Kissin's recording, however, my passion for it was ignited and I am learning it. I'm very close to having it memorized and would like to know at this point, as you might imagine, where these misprints supposedly are.  From the recording it appears that near the end of Shrovetide Fair an 8va in the left hand is missing in one bar in the score (compared with what Kissin plays), and as well there may be some discrepancy between the score and K's performance with the grace note chords in the left hand starting 25 bars from the end-these are a little more difficult to discern given his pedaling. (Intentionally so? Is this the big secret?).

Unfortunately this score does not have bar numbers (International Music Company) but I would gladly find one that does if someone knows something about my request. If you or any teacher you know can answer this I would very much appreciate learning. I would even seriouslly consider traveling to have a lesson with a teacher who knows and has played the piece.








Offline kriskicksass

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Re: Misprints in Three Movements From Petrouchka?
Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 10:43:05 PM
While I don't know too much about the piece in depth, I do know that it is usually considered to be on the list of pieces of standard repertoire that you can sometimes "fake," so if Kissin's recording doesn't follow your score, it's entirely possible that he decided to not play what's written! That being said, it would most likely be much more beneficial to you to obtain a copy of the full score of Petrouchka and compare the reduction to the orchestration. That way, you should be able to pick out any blatantly wrong notes right away (like missing accidentals) while getting more acquainted with the piece, and if you should like to add a little bit (like Kissin did to the left hand), then so be it.
 
Remember that the 3 Movements is nothing but an arrangement of the orchestral score, and the performer is always free to arrange an arrangement.

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Re: Misprints in Three Movements From Petrouchka?
Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 09:13:48 PM
Interesting idea, comparing the orchestral score to the piano score. I don't know why I didn't think of that sooner myself. As for faking it I see no reason to do that. I don't think Kissin is faking anything, as his performance is so clean aside from the grace notes he hides with the pedal.

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Re: Misprints in Three Movements From Petrouchka?
Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 05:03:15 AM
I've seen a few different publications and they all have a few little differences, and I have also heard a couple of recordings that have major differences from what is normally played; for instance, in the very beginning of the first movement after the parallel chords, there is that long string of octaves in the RH, and in a couple of recordings I have heard them played 8va up from where they normally are.  Have also heard some that use Glissandi in the LH and some that use scales in the 3rd movement, but that may be a "cheat".

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Re: Misprints in Three Movements From Petrouchka?
Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 02:01:01 PM
How hard is this piece?  I've heard that it's one of the most difficult pieces in the standard rep.

For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)

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Re: Misprints in Three Movements From Petrouchka?
Reply #5 on: December 21, 2006, 10:30:30 AM
I've seen a few different publications and they all have a few little differences,

Hmm....do I spend $23.95 plus tax to get the Boosey and Hawkes edition for comparison, or just keep using the copy I paid $5 for 20+ years ago? (I collected music like a fiend back then).
The question of various editoins has gone through my mind, but since the only discrepancies between Kissin's recording and my edition are these three chords in the LH (and one tiny 8va)
I don't know that I want to spend money unnecessarily. There are no stores where I am that would carry something like that, I'd have to order it.  Why can't this be simple? *sigh*
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