How about a new board "Anything but Religion"

[debussy symbolism]

Let me conjure up a scenario. Lets say someone is claiming that 2 plus 2 is 5. We all (hopefully) know that 2 plus 2 is 4, so yes, we could not post anything, but most likely we will. Same thing with other cases that claim rediculous theories.

[prometheus]

We had two topics about the universe. Both turned into biblical religious myth.

Then we can choose to 'not reply' but that just destroyed the whole discussion about the universe. I could have told things about dark matter and about inflation.

[thalbergmad]

again! you have the option to not respond!   

It is very difficult not to.

If someone is proposing that the sun is 6000 years old, unless someone responds, they might live the rest of their life thinking that is correct.

Thal

[debussy symbolism]

We had two topics about the universe. Both turned into biblical religious myth.

Then we can choose to 'not reply' but that just destroyed the whole discussion about the universe. I could have told things about dark matter and about inflation.

You should be on guard, because someone will just as likely to post something that most dearly contradicts known nature, whether dark matter or not-so dark matter, etc. Either way it would have ended up in religious talk, because someone will provide an explanations using divinity as a guide, and thus ensuring good debate.

[jpianoflorida]

since our christian views will be put down and called theories, because you other guys have the "truth"... and we christians are just dumb, maybe we should just leave the discussion to you guys without us.     But then you would have no one to debate with.     But that's what I'm going to do...    it's not really worth the effort anymore, so I am bowing out permantly from any religious debates, postings, etc.   It's actually turned into a waste of energy.

[cziffra]

since our christian views will be put down and called theories, because you other guys have the "truth"... and we christians are just dumb, maybe we should just leave the discussion to you guys without us.     But then you would have no one to debate with.     But that's what I'm going to do...    it's not really worth the effort anymore, so I am bowing out permantly from any religious debates, postings, etc.   It's actually turned into a waste of energy.

Try to convince your little friends to follow suit

[ahinton]

If someone is proposing that the sun is 6000 years old, unless someone responds, they might live the rest of their life thinking that is correct.

Thal

But is it not true (even according to your own statements) that some such people might continue to labour under such delusions no matter how often you or anyone else responds to the contrary?

Best,

Alistair

[penguinlover]

I hesitate to post here, for you all seem to be much better educated than me, and can express yourselves wonderfully on this forum.  I believe, especially in the "Anything but Piano" section, that all should be welcome - Bible verses and all.  Who knows, someone may go look them up and read for themselves!  Someone may not know where to go in the Bible for answers, and if the verse is there for you, it makes it a whole lot easier to find.

Religion is a deeply personal thing for anyone.  For and atheist (which I don't think truly exist), or the agnostic, or any of the "isms" out there, that is their religion.  They are passionate about it.  Anyone is passionate about the things they feel deeply.  I use the term religion, which is not a great term.  Faith would be a better one.  Relationship would be an even better one.  That's why people respond to these kinds of threads.  Is this short enough?

[wishful thinker]

Wishful Thinker..

Mr Hinton has rather caught my eye.  Please formally introduce us.

Aliena dear. no need to shout.  I know Mr Hinton is not as young as he was, but he has the trumpets to help him here 

Now.  Aliena, meet Mr. Alistair Hinton.  He is a very venerable composer, wit and raconteur.

Mr Hinton, meet Aliena.   She's a trifle odd, you might think, but she is from Liverpool.  Is that a port too far? 

[thalbergmad]

Try to convince your little friends to follow suit

 

[pianowolfi]

I first felt supposed to post about a religious topic when "memminger" (or"maul") came up with his "Christianity-Plague of the mind"-thread. That was a provocation. And I reacted. And I regretted that soon. Never before that thread I intended to say something about Christianity or religion. Ok I've had started my topic about reincarnation before that but I was very reserved with posts about religion even there. If somebody attacks a "my belief" why shouldn't I go and defend it? But ok now i see that it was a very simple provocation and I should have ignored it. As well as many other posts of certain people who have not the slightest idea of what religion can be for an individual person.

[ahinton]

I know Mr Hinton is not as young as he was,

Do you? Who told you that? In any case, which of us is? Are you?(!)...

but he has the trumpets to help him here 

Which trumpets? How many of them? Why? Just for the record, by the way, the trumpet is an instrument for which I have written but which I have never played.

Mr. Alistair Hinton.  He is a very venerable composer, wit and raconteur.

Thank you for what I have no doubt you intended as a copliment, which is genuinel appreciated - but, as anyone here who has read some of my posts knows, I am really not at all "venerable"!

Aliena.   She's a trifle odd, you might think,

If you say so...

but she is from Liverpool.  Is that a port too far? 

Too far from where?

Best,

Alistair

[pianolearner]

i have never started a religious topic.  only answered questions to posed religioius philosophical questions.  i am a MINORITY.  not a majority here.  there are a few others- but the vote is not equal.  the majority of threads started on religion are NEGATIVE.  i have not started any negative threads about anyone else's beliefs.  these are the boards i have answered to that start out very negative:

Christianity, Plague of the Mind
The God Warrior
Contradictions in the Bible
Poll for Religious People
God Killed the Soapbox Star

i neither press my views - or talk about religion in the musical threads.  in fact, one of the last few threads in 'anything but piano' - i remember writing about william penn - and religious tolerance.  did you know that many things are 'religion' when you get down to it?  it's how seriously you believe something.  if someone asks a reason for your faith - should you not reply?  don't ask questions then!

I agree with you pianistimo.

WELL SAID and so concise too 

[thalbergmad]

WELL SAID and so concise too 

There has to be a first time for everything.

Thal

[pianowelsh]

well I have to say the psot about 'religious people' proposing an argument again after it has been 'disprooved' is farcical  - I still cant believe an intelligent person could post it. The whole nature of religion is that if you could disproove it noone would believe it.  It is impossible to 'disproove' such discussion, all debates on religious topics are in effect never finished because people hold opposing views which cannot - short of divine revalation be prooved or disprooved. That is where faith comes in - it is only faith that convinces us.  I suspect what it should really be termed is 'anything but Christianity' because views expressed from athiestic or gnostic backgrounds are always praise and given reverence - its only the christians who are told to shut up.  Hmmm tell me who the bigots really are??

[ahinton]

I suspect what it should really be termed is 'anything but Christianity' because views expressed from athiestic or gnostic backgrounds are always praise and given reverence - its only the christians who are told to shut up.  Hmmm tell me who the bigots really are??

Wel, I'm certainly not telling Christians to shut up; what I have done, however, is try to persuade certain of them to desist from undue Crhistian-oriented verbosity in this forum when it is simply not germane to the topics under discussion.

Best,

Alistair

[ihatepop]

Let me conjure up a scenario. Lets say someone is claiming that 2 plus 2 is 5.

Wrong. 2 plus 2 is a cobra split into 2.

Honestly, there should be a board 'Anything but religion' and a seperate board 'religion'. Every 2 days nils will just go in there and delete everything. I DO NOT LIKE RELIGION THREADS AND POSTS and I wish that someone would just come and delete every religion thread or post ever created on the face of this forum. I scorn the look of any thread or post mentioning about religion. I despise it!!!!!!!!!

ihatepop

P.S.No, seriously.