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Sportive student
on: December 02, 2006, 09:54:44 AM
I teach a 11 y old girl who is very talented in piano and in sports. She plays tennis and does athletics. Currently her exercise schedule is very intense so she almost has no time to practise the piano. She has lessons with me once a month. I can't resist to think i might slightly influence her to dislocate her activities more towards musical exercises. She does compete in running and tennis. She could do as well compete in piano if she would spend more time practising. But she can't have a high level in both. Of course i don't tell her to do more piano and less sports. Perhaps she will become a professional sports woman and then I would be guilty if she gets not as good as she could. But i am thinking about making her more addicted to music. Any ideas?

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #1 on: December 02, 2006, 01:47:36 PM
I teach a 11 y old girl who is very talented in piano and in sports. She plays tennis and does athletics. Currently her exercise schedule is very intense so she almost has no time to practise the piano. She has lessons with me once a month. I can't resist to think i might slightly influence her to dislocate her activities more towards musical exercises. She does compete in running and tennis. She could do as well compete in piano if she would spend more time practising. But she can't have a high level in both. Of course i don't tell her to do more piano and less sports. Perhaps she will become a professional sports woman and then I would be guilty if she gets not as good as she could. But i am thinking about making her more addicted to music. Any ideas?

Suggest 1 lesson a fortnight instead of a month.

Hows she doing in her lessons?

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #2 on: December 02, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
hey pianowolfi.. how does the once a month lesson work? I'm curious.    Is it for an hour, or longer or? just curious how you do your lessons?   I'm always interested in others ways of doing things. thanks.   jay.

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #3 on: December 02, 2006, 01:51:07 PM
She does well in her lessons. She is interested and tries to do what I suggest. Yes, next year perhaps i could suggest fortnight lessons. It depends also of the parents.

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #4 on: December 02, 2006, 01:51:39 PM
hey pianowolfi.. how does the once a month lesson work? I'm curious.    Is it for an hour, or longer or? just curious how you do your lessons?   I'm always interested in others ways of doing things. thanks.   jay.

Come to think of it, that means only 12 lessons a year. (MUCH too little, in my opinion)

I have a lesson a week with my teacher.

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #5 on: December 02, 2006, 01:55:37 PM
hey pianowolfi.. how does the once a month lesson work? I'm curious.    Is it for an hour, or longer or? just curious how you do your lessons?   I'm always interested in others ways of doing things. thanks.   jay.

Yeah it does work, but the progress is slow. It would be definitely better if she had lessons more often. She practises less than she would with weekly lessons. But as said before, all depends on her sport schedule. Music comes second. And I am thinking about methods to make her more addicted to music. Because she is a good student and very open to classical pieces.

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #6 on: December 02, 2006, 01:57:07 PM
do you do a lot of monthly lessons?   do they come to you or you travel? sorry for all the questions, just curious how that works.   I have some every other week students(well, actually only 2 and they do an hour every other week)

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #7 on: December 02, 2006, 02:46:13 PM
do you do a lot of monthly lessons?   do they come to you or you travel? sorry for all the questions, just curious how that works.   I have some every other week students(well, actually only 2 and they do an hour every other week)

She is the only monthly one. I go to her house. It's just ten minutes cycling from where i live. I have one adult who takes lessons unregularly depending on his working schedule. All the others are weekly. One has fortnight. Most students i travel to.

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #8 on: December 02, 2006, 04:01:02 PM
Thinking back a little, I was kind of a mega sports person when in my pre-teens and teens.  I was heavily involved in sports at all seasons of the year, and I was pretty good at them, too.  Also, amongst some individual sports (track and field events), I played team sports where I had the only form of social interaction that I knew how to have at that point in my life (though, I often still felt out of place).  Actually, I was quite drawn to my coaches, too, I often considered them more my friends than most anybody my age.

At one point, I needed to make a decision about piano vs athletics (it's a really long story.  I think I could have actually avoided needing to make this decision had I not been so secretive about my life in general, but as I said, that is a *long* story).  I chose athletics (though I was still in choir throughout the entire time of my athletics).  At the time, I thought that I could pick music/piano back up at any point and that this option to accel with it would be there for the rest of my life and whenever I wanted.  With sports, however, I felt like that time in my life was thee time to experience the athletics.

But, looking back, I think there was more involved in my decision, which had to do with what I described in my first paragraph.  By that point, I had started to create something in my identity that people recognized through my athletic achievements.  People,  especially my coaches, and often media (later on in my athletics),  saw something in me that I had little confidence on my own to see.  Also, I had some kind of social network that was fairly tumultuous, but valuable to me none-the-less. 

I had mentors (my coaches offered to all the team that if we ever needed to talk with them, one on one, about anything, that they were there for us.  I actually took them up on this) and friends... and I was out of my house (which seemed important to me at the time) for a good portion of each day.

Perhaps, if I had some form of all of these things through piano studies, my decision would have been more in favor of piano/music (though it was very difficult for me to make this decision as it was).  I started lessons late, though I played the piano my entire life.  I met with my teacher once a week for half an hour.  I "started" lesson with her with a beginner's method book, which I believe was completely the wrong approach for me at the time. 

I believe that I accelled fairly quickly when I did start, though, and I did well with the things I applied myself to.  I enjoyed performing (similar to athletic events), I composed and won contests... but I had no idea that meant anything "special" regarding who I was/am.  I mean, it was just something I did, like many other things, that I enjoyed and felt some kind of success in.  I think I would have appreciated some kind of self-awareness support from my piano teacher, or from somewhere anyway, that validated that portion of who I was/am (this aspect of training is particularly important in the age you are dealing with). 

I believe the scales could have easily tipped more toward piano had I felt that I had a teacher (or somebody musical) who really saw me and connected with me (didn't find him/them until Uni, as it turns out).

This is quite interesting because I have never thought about all of this quite this way before.  Anyway, I bring all of this up because perhaps some of it may apply to your student.  Find out what makes her tick as a person, and then get those things involved in her piano experience.  If she can experience those things and grow through her experiences, she is not being robbed of anything.  Many people could be something great over something else great.  Just give her the opportunities and she will make her own decisions.

Hope that helps,
m1469
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Re: Sportive student
Reply #9 on: December 02, 2006, 05:51:33 PM
Wow that is a very good post, m1469, very helpful. It's always important to look at things from the student's perspective and that is what you do here. Yes i will try to find out more about who she is and what i should be to her. I think that's the right approach. Thanks m1469! :)

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #10 on: December 11, 2006, 10:16:04 PM
Have you ever seen the Sportacular books?
I'm not sure how far up they go - but all the kids I have like them that are into sports.

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #11 on: December 11, 2006, 11:19:35 PM
Have you ever seen the Sportacular books?
I'm not sure how far up they go - but all the kids I have like them that are into sports.

Hee hee that looks funny, i' ll try to check them. Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Sportive student
Reply #12 on: December 12, 2006, 09:40:23 PM
Sure, Pianowolf,
They are exercize books - so it really doesn't interfere with other methods used.
I dont see why we should feel guilty - after all, we are the piano coach  ;)
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