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Offline coca cola veins

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Mastering all of the keys?
on: December 07, 2006, 05:53:09 PM
How good do a avarage piano player have be when it comes to the different keys? Should one be able to - let's say - compose a piece of avarage difficulty in F minor and then be able to play it fluently, within seconds and without hazzle, in C# minor or are the different keys concidered to be different to the extent where a F minor piece isn't suited for C# minor use?

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Offline Bob

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Re: Mastering all of the keys?
Reply #1 on: December 08, 2006, 03:22:35 AM
Loaded post. :|

It depends what your goals are.  If you're talking about being able to instantly transpose a piece in f minor to c# minor, then you can work toward that.  It's not impossible.

The more you play in the key, the better you get.  Absorbing a piece in a key and then sight-reading a lot of pieces in the same key would help a lot.  Knowing the scale, playing the chords in the key, etc., would help too.

The "can a piece in f minor be suited for c# minor?' question is loaded.  That's up to individual taste.  Some will say yes -- it's just a different key, it's all relationships...   Some will say no, that it will only sound right in f minor, the composer meant it to be in the original key, that the original key has the correct character....  So it's not a question that has a definite answer.
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Re: Mastering all of the keys?
Reply #2 on: December 10, 2006, 12:59:08 AM
There is a magical transpose button on digital pianos, sorta made me not want to ever care about having to play a piece in every single key. When it comes to playing "jazz" chords and fill ins however you should be able to do this on any key, but when it comes to "classically" composed music it is I think pretty useless unless you want to show off :).
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Offline overscore

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Re: Mastering all of the keys?
Reply #3 on: December 10, 2006, 02:58:55 AM
Sometimes I think the great composers deliberately put pieces in the most unnaccomadating key possible (especially Beethoven). One presumes they were showing off!

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Re: Mastering all of the keys?
Reply #4 on: December 10, 2006, 09:52:30 AM
Sometimes I think the great composers deliberately put pieces in the most unnaccomadating key possible (especially Beethoven). One presumes they were showing off!

Not at all. Each key has its own significant meaning. An example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-flat_major

Here you can check out all the keys and their different meaning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signature
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Offline frustrated_pianist

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Re: Mastering all of the keys?
Reply #5 on: December 18, 2006, 02:18:45 AM
After finishing a song in the key of E, it made sightreading other pieces with sharps sooo much easier.

but yeah. i think it depends on the experience of the player.

Offline lenkaolenka

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Re: Mastering all of the keys?
Reply #6 on: December 25, 2006, 06:21:23 PM
Ability to play in different keys is important for music mind development and should be properly trained from the very beginning:

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Offline pianogeek_cz

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Re: Mastering all of the keys?
Reply #7 on: December 25, 2006, 07:11:16 PM
Just a side remark, without intending to sound sarcastic: isn't being able to play in any key without any note-reading problems the point of practicing scales?
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