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What is your opinion about the more progressive Czerny etudes?

Terrible!
3 (60%)
Only for the practice...
1 (20%)
Nice works.
1 (20%)
Beautiful pieces!
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Topic: Already asked in the forum, but fit's here too...  (Read 1462 times)

Offline amitmis

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Already asked in the forum, but fit's here too...
on: December 08, 2006, 10:38:08 PM
Thank's again for the answers!

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Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: Already asked in the forum, but fit's here too...
Reply #1 on: December 09, 2006, 12:54:21 AM
Greetings.

Instead of mindlessly voting for "terrible," I suggest to the voter an offering of explanation for his speciifc choice.

I am a bit confused about what you mean by this speciifc pole. Are you asking for evaluating Czerny as exercise or as musical composition(I am of course referring to his Etudes)?

Musically speaking, they aren't meant for a concert platform and are generally meant as strictly exercises, although there are some etudes that are unequivocally beautiful and not at all boring.

Technically speaking, I see Czerny as very progressive and helpful in many aspects of technique. On that however, I have written my opinion in some other thread, namely-"Czerny."

Offline counterpoint

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Re: Already asked in the forum, but fit's here too...
Reply #2 on: December 09, 2006, 09:50:12 AM
I have voted "terrible"  ;D 

My vote was not totally serious, but I think, Czerny's Etudes are some of the most superfluous compositions ever composed. Why should one waste his time with learning something this boring? There are 50 Sonatas by Haydn, 18 by Mozart, 32 by Beethoven, many, many Variation works by Mozart and Beethoven as well. If you have played all these, you should not be in need of additional Czerny fingertraining. But if you prefer playing Czerny instead of Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, it's up to you to do so  :D
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Re: Already asked in the forum, but fit's here too...
Reply #3 on: December 09, 2006, 01:37:46 PM
I have voted "terrible" also.

Czerny Etudes are mediocre music. Just play them if you like them as repertoire.
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Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: Already asked in the forum, but fit's here too...
Reply #4 on: December 09, 2006, 10:40:55 PM
I have voted "terrible"  ;D 

My vote was not totally serious, but I think, Czerny's Etudes are some of the most superfluous compositions ever composed. Why should one waste his time with learning something this boring? There are 50 Sonatas by Haydn, 18 by Mozart, 32 by Beethoven, many, many Variation works by Mozart and Beethoven as well. If you have played all these, you should not be in need of additional Czerny fingertraining. But if you prefer playing Czerny instead of Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, it's up to you to do so  :D

You can of course if you want to, but the sonatas are hard, and feature many scale runs, arpeggios, etc. Czerny etudes are short, and thus will not require you to spend too much time on an etude, and a single etude only focuses on one specific technique, so you will not have to be burdened with a sonata that asks for myriad of those technique. I say this from experience, because after Czerny etudes, I instantly identify and play many aspects of techniques I find in pieces. Without Czerny I would spend alot more time getting those things down in pieces, whether scales, arpeggios, chords, etc.
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