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Offline quantum

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Weak knuckle joint on 5th finger
on: December 21, 2006, 08:02:59 AM
One of my transfer students plays octaves and large chords with a lopsided hand.  The knuckle joint of the 5th finger on both hands collapses so that part of the hand is lower than the rest.  This also results in an excessively curved 5th finger because that part of the hand is so close to the keys.  His 2nd and 3rd knuckles are in a more correct position. 

I have given him an exercise out of the Ernest Hutcheson book for weak knuckles with the 5th and 4th fingers.  However, I'd like to know if you have ever had to solve such a problem, and what you did? 

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Offline pianistimo

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Re: Weak knuckle joint on 5th finger
Reply #1 on: December 21, 2006, 01:27:00 PM
flatter hands.  it helps a lot.  just tell him to play with his pinky fairly straight.  a sort of fish-flop technique.  just flop from octave to octave in a 'flutter.'  people think you have to be all stiff for octaves.  i have witnessed some pretty good octave technique by being sort of 1/2 and 1/2.  obviously you want the octaves to stay in place - but you also want a really relaxed wrist because you are repeating them so often.

also, he could try using the fourth finger on the black notes - which sorta helps to balance the useage of fingers.  probably already does, right? 

i vaguely remember somewhere back - a teacher on this forum suggesting that the inner three fingers be mentally moved more towards the thumb instead of tending toward the fifth finger.  he/she said it helped with balance of the hand.  and yet you see different pianists do it differently.  some prefer to let the fingers side with the fingers and the thumb be on the other side.  maybe it depends, also, on the passage and where it is leading?

 

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