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Offline ada

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adult themes and sexual references
on: January 02, 2007, 06:42:33 PM
It is with shock and horror that I notice some posts in PF have descended into cheap pornography.

A recent post talked about "girl on girl action" and "cum shots" :o :o while others made reference to the male genitalia and discussed aspects of fingering that I certainly will not go into here  :o  :o  :o.

A mention of "boobies" also resulted in a link being posted which I am certainly not about to open. However, I think we can make an assumption about where it might lead to. Perhaps we should ask pianowolfi.

Members should bear in mind that children and christians frequent this site, and maintain minimum standards of decency.

This is the sort of smut that belongs on OTHER forums (and I don't mean the Swing Daters Club).

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #1 on: January 02, 2007, 07:05:43 PM
If you come across such posts, please immediately click the "report to moderator" link at the bottom right of the post in question.

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 07:11:09 PM
I seem to have missed all of them...
I am perfectly normal, it is everyone else who is strange.

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 08:38:29 PM
A mention of "boobies" also resulted in a link being posted which I am certainly not about to open. However, I think we can make an assumption about where it might lead to. Perhaps we should ask pianowolfi.

Oh you mean this one?
https://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~km/pics/kirk/boobies.jpg
(https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,22567.0.html )

































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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 08:58:16 PM
that thread was pornographic????
I am perfectly normal, it is everyone else who is strange.

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 09:29:17 PM


A mention of "boobies" also resulted in a link being posted which I am certainly not about to open. However, I think we can make an assumption about where it might lead to. Perhaps we should ask pianowolfi.


Yes I am unbiased ;), therefore I clicked on that link (of course only out of unbiasedness ;D) and saw these adorable two birds and said cute!



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Members should bear in mind that children and christians frequent this site, and maintain minimum standards of decency.


Principally I agree.



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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 09:51:46 PM
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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 07:00:54 AM
Greetings

Oh that's ironic Ada that you would be so kind as to point out the misbehaviour of others. You didn't forget that not so innocent and perfectly naughty chat we had in one of the boards eh? ;) Well you remember about the pants stuffing action don't you? Oh and please don't remind me of how you explicitly described yourself as a "flower undone" now.

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #8 on: January 03, 2007, 07:08:17 AM
Greetings.

I recall no such conversation  8)

And do not take everything I say so seriously, possum  ;)
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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007, 07:12:12 AM
Greetings.



Copyright infringement! What, do I have to use a "tm" now? ;D

Oh please, "no such conversation." Lucky for you and the rest of the forum the threads have been deleted by Nils. Unfortunately however, your unabashed forum conduct will once again expose you for the naughty girl you really are.

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Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 07:14:24 AM
Debussy you is letting your imagination get away with you  :-*
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Reply #11 on: January 03, 2007, 07:14:51 AM


And do not take everything I say so seriously, possum  ;)

Is it me, or does that sentence there carry the most errotic connotation so far?

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Reply #12 on: January 03, 2007, 07:16:54 AM
Debussy you is letting your imagination get away with you  :-*

Aha! That lingo can mean only one thing: Sex. And that kiss smily... Do I need to explain further... ;)

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Reply #13 on: January 03, 2007, 07:18:18 AM
Okay now you are getting obsessive. Go and take a cold shower.
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Reply #14 on: January 03, 2007, 07:19:17 AM
Yeah you are right. I do get carried away. I appologize.

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Reply #15 on: January 03, 2007, 07:21:08 AM
That's ok possum  :)
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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #16 on: January 03, 2007, 07:23:34 AM
I think it's that "Da SDC" forum. Just looking at it fills one up with unwanted emotions. That place is totally uninhibited. People curse, post completely useless and not at all not so inappropriate material, and talk in a manner that can only be described as filthy.  "I don't zee how one gan ztay zane in dat place wiz all of da zwearing and zenseless talk and inapropriate behavior."

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Reply #17 on: January 03, 2007, 07:25:21 AM
That's ok possum  :)

Ada just for overall sense of understanding, how old are you? I am guessing 21.

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #18 on: January 03, 2007, 07:26:19 AM
I think it's that "Da SDC" forum. Just looking at it fills one up with unwanted emotions. That place is totally uninhibited. People curse, post completely useless and not at all not so inappropriate material, and talk in a manner that can only be described as filthy.  "I don't zee how one gan ztay zane in dat place wiz all of da zwearing and zenseless talk and inapropriate behavior."

Yes it is truly disgraceful. Best to stay well away lest one becomes corrupted.
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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #19 on: January 03, 2007, 10:54:47 AM
Debussy you is letting your imagination get away with you  :-*

Aha! That lingo can mean only one thing: Sex. And that kiss smily... Do I need to explain further... ;)

Is it me, or does that sentence there carry the most errotic connotation so far?


Ahaha! This is hilarious.  ;D ;D ;D Keep it up. I need a bit of distraction ;D ;) :P

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Reply #20 on: January 04, 2007, 01:24:35 AM
You should have seen a few chats we had earlier. Unfortunately they have been the subject of banning by Nils. :)

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #21 on: January 04, 2007, 01:49:31 AM
If you don't like it, and it clearly breaks the rules, just report it with the button.

(claps for pianowolfi)  Good one.  Bad timing with the other person's posts.  I was also afriad to click on the link.  Those birds look like a nice screen saver -- and a good joke for those that get it.
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Reply #22 on: January 04, 2007, 07:02:52 AM
You should have seen a few chats we had earlier. Unfortunately they have been the subject of banning by Nils. :)

Ahaha i can imagine  ;D ;D

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Reply #23 on: January 04, 2007, 07:06:31 AM
If you don't like it, and it clearly breaks the rules, just report it with the button.

(claps for pianowolfi)  Good one.  Bad timing with the other person's posts.  I was also afriad to click on the link.
What would you lose if...?  ;D ;D

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Reply #24 on: January 04, 2007, 07:09:52 AM
You should have seen a few chats we had earlier. Unfortunately they have been the subject of banning by Nils. :)

ah stop talking it up Debussy, they wuz not that interesting  ;)
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Reply #25 on: January 04, 2007, 05:30:33 PM
I think it's that "Da SDC" forum. Just looking at it fills one up with unwanted emotions. That place is totally uninhibited. People curse, post completely useless and not at all not so inappropriate material, and talk in a manner that can only be described as filthy.  "I don't zee how one gan ztay zane in dat place wiz all of da zwearing and zenseless talk and inapropriate behavior."
Perhaps the enticement of rare, non-commercially available recs and great advice from great pianists... but watch out! the old posts are far worse than the new ones.  And don't go in the ones not related to piano because you might encounter horrible images!  Rather, you will encounter them, if you do...

Dat's where I got 5 of mah 7 Pimp Zon reqz d00d.
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Reply #26 on: January 04, 2007, 09:04:22 PM
Perhaps the enticement of rare, non-commercially available recs and great advice from great pianists... but watch out! the old posts are far worse than the new ones.  And don't go in the ones not related to piano because you might encounter horrible images!  Rather, you will encounter them, if you do...

Dat's where I got 5 of mah 7 Pimp Zon reqz d00d.

Really? I haven't seen any obscene threads or images there so far. I have seen however some post that clearly are for spam only. You probably know what I am talking about. I'll go have a look and see if there are really such obscene posts there.

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Reply #27 on: January 13, 2007, 12:36:26 AM
Let's clean up some of this filthy stuff.

It's been my impression, most pianists have about the morals of a bellhop!

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #28 on: January 13, 2007, 06:04:39 PM
Let's clean up some of this filthy stuff.

Which stuff? Where did you see it?
Please use the "Report to moderator" link if you come across something "filthy".

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Reply #29 on: January 26, 2007, 02:17:56 AM
I don't think adult themes and sexual references should form a problem. If kids want to see pornography they have plenty of places to go, and besides that, I doubt that it will seriously hurt their precious hearts and minds. I believe that this is a conviction of adults, who somehow have this idea in mind that pornography is harmful.

Which I don't understand.  I also don't understand the christian moral about sexuality. I think it's loaded with fear and misunderstanding.

Anyway, just my two cents on this subject. I really don't like taboos, and especially not when they are religiously supported.

Other than that, I will keep myself to the regulations of this forum and don't feel the need to post pornography here. But If people would want to, I don't think it's a problem.



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Reply #30 on: January 26, 2007, 02:58:27 AM
I somewhat agree with you here. Just because this forum may offer pictures of pornographic nature doesn't mean that the children will be influenced to view more porn. There are plenty of places a child will visit looking specifically for porn, so whether this forum offers any is not really going to count. To quote L. Rodriguez, "books don't cause sexuality, hormones do" (approximate quote). A youngster (child) will go on pornographic sites anyway and there are plenty of readily accessible media that will propagate sexual imagery faster than the images on this forum. Magazines come to mind. Television commercials featuring atrractive women, etc. Whether pornography really hurts children is not certain. At least an unbiased approach should be taken for farer results. I think a greater fear should be not the immediate content, but what the consequences are. If a member posts sexually explicit material and gets no consequence, more and more members will post the same material and voila, the piano forum turns into a "young girls on sexy guys" forum (lets hope it doesn't come to that). The forum will then cease to exist and no one will take it seriously. (I am sure something similar happened to DaSDC due to their apparent lack of moderation and a general gayety in spirit. :)) Just my thoughts on this matter.

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #31 on: January 26, 2007, 05:20:54 AM
Well, personally, if I wanted to join a sex forum I would.  So, I am pretty sure I like Piano Street without it.

But, other than that, from a professional standpoint, there is no way I am going to put my job on the line by recommending a "piano" site to my young students, knowing that it carries pornographic pictures.  Whether I feel it will harm them or not, and no matter what my personal standards are, I need my job and I am not going to risk having one of my students sitting there looking at half-naked people while telling their folks that "Mrs. m1469 sent me here, mommy" ... yadda yadda.  Geez. 

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Reply #32 on: January 26, 2007, 07:29:52 AM
Well, some could be motivated by it. :-*

This is a 'universal' piano forum, but I love the fact that da SDC caters for a niche, and encourages the inspiring notion that, socially, pianists are as ghenswei as the most trendy of teen hipsters.
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Reply #33 on: January 26, 2007, 12:48:26 PM
pianists are as ghenswei
genius or gesniu

There are some SDCians who choose to stay away from such things.  But watch out :(... particularly old threads are less... "Family friendly"... and stay out of the Wud u? and the Sean Bennett forums.
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Reply #34 on: January 26, 2007, 07:25:02 PM
Well, some could be motivated by it. :-*

So ?  That really has nothing to do with it.  When it comes to this subject, for most parents I know, their child's "motivation" by it won't keep me from losing my job if they disagree with the means of me motivating them (which, on this particular topic, I am quite certain that most of them would disagree with (or I am not willing to find out the hard way)).  Same goes for hitting them with my hand or other objects -- maybe it motivates them, but the parents won't like it very much.  Again, it doesn't matter what my own thoughts on it are, it matters what the parents think, in this case (that is why subtlety is my friend  ;), and there is really nothing subtle about posting pornographic photos). 

I think you get the idea.


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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #35 on: January 26, 2007, 07:34:43 PM
I'm talking about more mature students.

Being a universal forum, there has to be some limitations, all I'm saying is that da SDC caters for this
But true, having a sexy teacher should be more than enough imspiration for your students. :-*
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Reply #36 on: January 26, 2007, 07:42:07 PM
Well, that's fine but we are not talking solely about da sdc, but mainly about PS.  And furthermore, a few posts up, the topic of children (anybody under 18 where I live) being on the site came up and how they can find porn anywhere so it doesn't matter if it's here, too; that is mainly what I am speaking to and the fact that it does matter (to me and for the reasons I stated).

If this site is to be fully used by "professional" pianists, including teachers, I would think it would wish to allow the safety of a teacher advising their students to use it as well.  But, I won't do that since I am never quite sure what's going to come up here (and possibly stay up) and in turn, what I could get pinned for by the parents.  For my own personal use, I enjoy this site, but what it could offer my students is limited to what I personally glean from it, and that alone.  That's simply the reality of it right now.

At the same time, I am not complaining, because perhaps this is the site's best -- or most wide-spread-- use just as it is (I just won't send my students here, but maybe I wouldn't anyway  :-). 


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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #37 on: January 26, 2007, 08:41:54 PM
I have never ever seen any porn here, ada started this topic as a joke, it seems.

Though..if I had students I would be a little apprehensive to let them see everything I have posted  ;D
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Reply #38 on: January 26, 2007, 08:57:29 PM
yes, dear  ::)
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Reply #39 on: January 26, 2007, 09:19:58 PM
ada started this topic as a joke, it seems.
That is surely stating the obvious!

Having gotten that off my chest, I'll go back to yawning about this thread...

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Reply #40 on: January 26, 2007, 09:46:54 PM
yes, dear  ::)

hmm?

That is surely stating the obvious!

Having gotten that off my chest, I'll go back to yawning about this thread...

Best,

Alistair

Some people seem to be taking it seriously, not knowing about the nature of the thread creator.

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Reply #41 on: January 26, 2007, 09:52:13 PM
Some people seem to be taking it seriously, not knowing about the nature of the thread creator.
I'm not sure exactly who those people may be to whom you refer here - but let's give you the benefit not only of the doubt but also of your apparent expertise on the subject and invite you to enlighten us all as to what you mean about "the nature of the thread creator", then...

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Reply #42 on: January 26, 2007, 09:55:55 PM
Ada seems like the type of guy who would cross-dress, and engage in some activities of an unsavoury nature  ;)

Though Alistair, I'd like to say I think you're a cool guy and I think you're funny  ;D
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Reply #43 on: January 26, 2007, 10:00:50 PM
Ada seems like the type of guy who would cross-dress, and engage in some activities of an unsavoury nature  ;)

Though Alistair, I'd like to say I think you're a cool guy and I think you're funny  ;D

Hmm, I see what you mean. After all if was Ada who introduced this thread, and unlike a dignified and genuinely upset member she explicetely stated the various culprits of such forum "sexual" conduct. To state a few, she mentioned "girl on girl action," "cumshots," "fingering," etc. This is very interesting on the part of Ada not being the "Ada" she wants us to see.

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Reply #44 on: January 26, 2007, 10:04:05 PM
Ada seems like the type of guy who would cross-dress, and engage in some activities of an unsavoury nature  ;)
"She" doesn't seem like quite that kind of "guy" to me, I have to say...

Though Alistair, I'd like to say I think you're a cool guy and I think you're funny  ;D
I'll try to take that as a compliment...

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Reply #45 on: January 26, 2007, 10:05:49 PM
You don;t have to try, Alistair, you just are  :-*

And yeah, I think she's a he...for some reason.
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Reply #46 on: January 26, 2007, 10:08:02 PM
And yeah, I think she's a he...for some reason.
But you neither tell us, nor even appear to be sure, what that "reason" might be. Ah, well... let's leave you to your "thoughts", then...

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Reply #47 on: January 26, 2007, 10:11:30 PM
 ;) You wanna know
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Reply #48 on: January 26, 2007, 10:31:13 PM
;) You wanna know
If I've not heard your "reason/s", how can I tell whether or not I "wanna know"?

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Re: adult themes and sexual references
Reply #49 on: January 28, 2007, 07:09:46 PM
Ada seems like the type of guy who would cross-dress, and engage in some activities of an unsavoury nature  ;)


hahahaha

For the record I am neither a guy nor a cross dresser   ;D
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