Why should it be worth?

[pianowolfi]

 I am interested in your opinions concerning the following question:

Why should it be worth to connect personal feelings and personal intentions, even some of your recordings, personal opinions and feelings with a place like pianostreet or similar "virtual" places? Does the responsibility for what you say and what you do increase or decrease with the  increase of virtuality? Or is it rather the contrary? With more public appear new and more responsibilities? Why should for instance a personal feeling get less personal when exposed to a broad public? And why should for instance a personal insult be less insulting because it has been published on a forum or website?


Pianowolfi

[ada]

what have you been smoking pianowolfi? 

Well in answer to your question imo the internet has the curious effect of obscuring the individual at the very same time as exposing them to a potentially limitless audience; Andy Warhol's 15 minutes of fame with impunity, if you like.

The anonmity afforded by the internet removes inhibitions and responsibility for one's actions at the same time, which may explain the candid nature of many of the posts.

For many people it can become a highly confessional tool (look at blogs etc), in the tradition of the diary and the confessional novel; so it fullfills what may be an inherent need to tell the world about oneself.

The online community is unique because it's both tightly meshed yet distant. If someone insults us we can absorb it better because we don't have to face up to them the next day. By the same token we may say things to people online that we'd never consider saying to their face.

This may be a good thing in terms of removing barriers to open expression but it can also come at a personal cost.

Yet it's a microcosm (or macrocosm) of the "real" community, with leaders, outcasts, agenda-setters, bullies, the annoying goody-goody who thinks they know it all, mischeif makers and rebels,  sub-cultures and power struggles.

haha, my thoughts. there ya go, you asked for it.

[pianowolfi]

what have you been smoking pianowolfi? 

Good thoughts ada! Well i just have had a bit of Chianti actually

[bench warmer]

.The anonmity afforded by the internet removes inhibitions and responsibility for one's actions at the same time, which may explain the candid nature of many of the posts.

For many people it can become a highly confessional tool (look at blogs etc), in the tradition of the diary and the confessional novel; so it fullfills what may be an inherent need to tell the world about oneself.

The online community is unique because it's both tightly meshed yet distant. If someone insults us we can absorb it better because we don't have to face up to them the next day. By the same token we may say things to people online that we'd never consider saying to their face....

What a load of Crap! Stupidest thing I've seen written since my Lithium medication wore off.


Actually, I think you've nailed the whole philosophy of electronic noncivility in a nutshell.
Bravo!

I'd say more but I'm looking for those dammnn meds.

[Bob]

The internet is good for information.  Shallower for personal communication -- If someone loves or hates me it's someone only typing somewhere in the world.  

[pianowolfi]

What a load of Crap! Stupidest thing I've seen written since my Lithium medication wore off.


Actually, I think you've nailed the whole philosophy of electronic noncivility in a nutshell.
Bravo!

I'd say more but I'm looking for those dammnn meds.

What is Lithium medication for? Would that probably help me too?

[pianowolfi]

The internet is good for information.  Shallower for personal communication -- If someone loves or hates me it's someone only typing somewhere in the world. 

But I see loads of personal communication on this as well as on other forums. Communication might be a stronger human want than just information.

[ada]

What is Lithium medication for? Would that probably help me too?

Lithium is standard medication for bipolar disorder. I would suggest some xanies for you, pianowolfi 

Goddam, why can't people stay on topic?

[counterpoint]

And why should for instance a personal insult be less insulting because it has been published on a forum or website?

I don't know, what you are talking about, but yes, it should be less insulting  
You should not take all that is written in a forum this serious.

[pianowolfi]

I don't know, what you are talking about, but yes, it should be less insulting 
You should not take all that is written in a forum this serious.

I am not referring to a particular situation. But that exactly is my question. Is it really less insulting or do you just think so and realize later that it has insulted you perhaps even more than a personal attack in "real" life?

[pianowolfi]

Lithium is standard medication for bipolar disorder. I would suggest some xanies for you, pianowolfi 

Goddam, why can't people stay on topic?

And wth is xanies? Something like Viagra? Or a medication that helps you to stay on topic?

[counterpoint]

I am not referring to a particular situation. But that exactly is my question. Is it really less insulting or do you just think so and realize later that it has insulted you perhaps even more than a personal attack in "real" life?

If someone in real life would say something like "I am free - you are not ! You are brainwashed – I am not ! You are still under musical ‘Soviet’ occupation !" to me, I would be very disturbed and this person would fall in my sympathy below any known value. But reading something like this in a forum is really funny 

[pianowolfi]

Yeah I agree. But this specific post is addressed to the whole forum community and not to a  particular person. So it is more general and not personal. But let's say someone attacks you personally by calling you names? How would you react?

[ada]

And wth is xanies? Something like Viagra?

hahaha no no no

xanax.  keeps you calm. Stops you jumping around

[counterpoint]

hahaha no no no

xanax.  keeps you calm. Stops you jumping around

It's a sort of Anti-Viagra 

[pianowolfi]

hahaha no no no

xanax.  keeps you calm. Stops you jumping around

Ah i see. So I made the impression that I'm jumping around? Even this fact you can see over the net? Astonishing. That leads btt. How did you get the impression of me jumping around in exaggeration if the net is so impersonal?

[counterpoint]

But let's say someone attacks you personally by calling you names? How would you react?

Try it - you will experience me by a whole new side 

[pianowolfi]

Try it - you will experience me by a whole new side 

I'll never do that. 

[pianistimo]

i think that if one is true to themselves then what they say in public or private forum is probably pretty much the same as they'd say in person.  i think men's humor and women's is intensely different at times.  when you sorta understand it - you don't get so offended.  women don't tend to work our their egos on forum.  i mean it's rare to see a catfight.  women are just higher developed.  (now no evolutionary ideas, please). 

but, then there are a few rarified men who are always really polite and nice to everyone.  like  pianowolfi. 

[wishful thinker]

i mean it's rare to see a catfight.

Don't agree, I'm afraid.  I know of one or two sites that have been virtually brought down by women brawling. Its not pretty, I can tell you