Difficulty of concertos?

[Beet9]

On a scale of 1-10 (1 being least difficult, 10 being most) how difficult do you think these concertos are? (technically and musically)

Brahms concerto no.2
Beethoven concerto no. 1
Beethoven concerto no. 5
Grieg concerto in a minor
Tchaikovsky no. 1
Rachmaninoff concerto no.3
Rachmaninoff concerto no.1

[Dave_2004_G]

Beethoven 1 and Grieg aside, they all may as well be a 10 for an amateur
They're all very difficult, the easiest apart from the above two is probably emperor

Dave

[zhiliang]

Well for my opinion it will go this way...

Brahms Concerto No. 2 - 9
Beethoven Concerto No. 1 - 5
Beethoven Concerto No. 5 - 6
Greig Concerto in A Minor - 7
Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto No. 1 - 9
Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 3 - 10
Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 1 - 8

Well, it cant be judged this way i believe, because all different pianists have strengths and weaknesses in different areas. Some seasoned pianists cannot even play a trill better than a young girl so its hard to judge by this. To me, all these piano concertos are 9-10.  

[anda]

are you kidding??? brahms both concerts, beethoven 5th and 4th, mozart 491 (c moll), tchaikovski 1st and prokofiev 2nd - these are probably the most difficult piano concerts ever written! 10, of course! as for the rest... may 7 for rachmaninov 1st,  8 for beethoven 1 and 3, schumann, chopin both, rachmaninov paganini rhapsody, saint-saens all, 6 for grieg, beethoven 2nd, mendelssohn... list some more

[thracozaag]

On a scale of 1-10 (1 being least difficult, 10 being most) how difficult do you think these concertos are? (technically and musically)

Brahms concerto no.2
Beethoven concerto no. 1
Beethoven concerto no. 5
Grieg concerto in a minor
Tchaikovsky no. 1
Rachmaninoff concerto no.3
Rachmaninoff concerto no.1

15
6
7
6
9
11
10

[Dave_2004_G]

The problem with these ratings system is that they can make people believe that pieces are easy when really they're only easy relative to others in their genre - the Grieg is a prime example - compared to the Rach concertos it's very easy but is by no means an easy piece as such

Dave

[dgk88]

On a scale of 1-10 (1 being least difficult, 10 being most) how difficult do you think these concertos are? (technically and musically)

Brahms concerto no.2
Beethoven concerto no. 1
Beethoven concerto no. 5
Grieg concerto in a minor
Tchaikovsky no. 1
Rachmaninoff concerto no.3
Rachmaninoff concerto no.1  



15
6
7
6
9
11
10  


I agree with those up there but i'd give the Rach 3 at least 20

[eddie92099]

rachmaninov paganini rhapsody...6

,
Ed

[liszmaninopin]

Where do you think Schumann's A minor concerto would rank on this list?  Rach's Second?

[Dave_2004_G]

It's probably in the same sort of kind of league as the Grieg, but harder
Rach 2 is in a different league altogether

Dave

[eddie92099]

Where do you think Schumann's A minor concerto would rank on this list?

It's musically difficult but I learnt it in a week,
Ed

[BoliverAllmon]

what about shostakovich's 2nd? I plan on starting it real soon.

boliver

[anda]

what about shostakovich's 2nd

it's wonderful, though it's not entirely original , the main risk is that you can easily cross that thin line between what it has to be and bad taste... technically it's not that difficult (depends on the concerts you have played before), but if you can play it as romantically as it's written, and still keep it decent - you got my vote

[eddie92099]

if you can play it as romantically as it's written, and still keep it decent - you got my vote

Music is Romantic, not romantic, and the word has nothing to do with love! Therefore, to call the second movement Romantic would be a huge mistake,
Ed

[anda]

Music is Romantic, not romantic, and the word has nothing to do with love! Therefore, to call the second movement Romantic would be a huge mistake,
Ed

sorry, missed the difference (maybe my english isn't good enough :-/

[Rob47]

Well rach 3 and brahms 2 i'd say... they're the ones that people are most likely to remark "F***ing Rach!" or "F***ing Brahms" more times than "F***ing Ludwig/Tchaikovsky/Grieg"  learning any of the other 5.

Not to say you wouldn't be dropping the F bomb constantly anyways though. Learning any of the others is also a challenging feat for any pianist.

Rob

[BoliverAllmon]

it's wonderful, though it's not entirely original , the main risk is that you can easily cross that thin line between what it has to be and bad taste... technically it's not that difficult (depends on the concerts you have played before), but if you can play it as romantically as it's written, and still keep it decent - you got my vote

This would be my first concerto. My teacher says that the first movement falls into the hands easily. The second movement seems easy, but extremely beautiful to me, and the third I am not sure of.

boliver

[scriabinsmyman]

Brahms concerto no.2: only 1-10...hmm...at least a 10 then
Beethoven concerto no. 1 : 6
Beethoven concerto no. 5 : 4
Grieg concerto in a minor : 6
Tchaikovsky no. 1 :7
Rachmaninoff concerto no.3 : at least as hard as the brahms
Rachmaninoff concerto no.1: 7
and the Schuman A minor: 10
Rach 2: 9

[BoliverAllmon]

you put the grieg over the Emperor's? you must be ill. come on.

boliver

[bachmoninoff]

Brahms concerto no.2: only 1-10...hmm...at least a 10 then
Beethoven concerto no. 1 : 6
Beethoven concerto no. 5 : 4
Grieg concerto in a minor : 6
Tchaikovsky no. 1 :7
Rachmaninoff concerto no.3 : at least as hard as the brahms
Rachmaninoff concerto no.1: 7
 and the Schuman A minor: 10
Rach 2: 9

Ayo, you on something?

[perfect_pitch]

Ayo, you on something?

You do realise this thread died almost two decades ago???

I don't think anyone cares anymore, but welcome anyway to the forum.